From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 28 13:18:58 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA01248 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:18:58 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA01238 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:18:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA08637; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:17:50 -0700 To: Peter da Silva cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jul 1995 07:12:47 CDT." <199507281212.HAA27841@bonkers.taronga.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:17:49 -0700 Message-ID: <8635.806962669@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I disagree. Oh, not in the user interface model, but in the file system > > > and process model. It takes the UNIX "everything is a file" a logical > > > evolutionary step forward. > > > Oh great. One of UNIX's worst abortions, taken to extremes (can you > > say "ioctl() is a bogus ``API'' for controlling behavior?" I thought > > so).. > > Plan 9 doesn't have IOCTL at all. Just about everything is done with open, > close, read, and write. So how do you do "out of band" operations, like telling a tape drive to skip forward to the next mark? Jordan