From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 19:09:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AAA37B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sc005pub.verizon.net (sc005pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5792243F85 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Received: from [4.47.74.254] (port=17653 helo=europa) by sc005pub.verizon.net with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19PYZg-0003Wl-3h; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:09:24 -0500 Message-ID: <004301c32ef5$e282bd30$6f64a8c0@europa> From: "Robert Clark" To: "sektie" , "Makoto Matsushita" , References: <20030606125417.A3489@online.fr><20030607181751T.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20030609103115.M77088@codersluts.net> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:13:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Peeve: why "i386"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 02:09:40 -0000 If we switched to x86, how many people would show up expecting FreeBSD to run on 8086, 80186, or 80286? 80386sx-16 (shudder). [RC] ----- Original Message ----- From: "sektie" To: "Makoto Matsushita" ; Cc: Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:42 AM Subject: Re: Peeve: why "i386"? > Personally, I don't care. > > I'm just about the most OCD person about my computers that I have ever seen > (ex: cvsup ports nightly, if 'pkg_version | grep "<"' returns something more > than two nights in a row, my cell phone gets an SMS). Everything has to be > beautiful and perfect, but I really don't care what the documentation says. > That's for a person more anal than myself to complain about. > > However, I do think that switching it from 'i386' to 'x86' wouldn't be that > big a deal. If you know what i386 is, then x86 isn't going to confuse you > (ia-32, eh, not so sure about that one). If you don't know what i386 is, > then I seriously doubt you are going to be looking at anything more complex > than a mac or winxp. > > The question isn't "are people going to understand?"; it's "who is going to > put the effort into doing that much work in the documentation?". > > More power to ya if ya have the time. Why not do something more useful, > though, like reverse engineer the DLink 520+? I'd give massive hugs to the > person that comes up with drivers for that. Getting rid of that clunky > Linksys and letting my fbsd server be the access point as well would take > care of me having to replace the crossover cable every 2 weeks due to a > teething 2 year old... > > Much love, > > Randi > sektie@codersluts.net > http://perlpimp.codersluts.net/ > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: Makoto Matsushita > To: rsidd@online.fr > Cc: chat@freebsd.org > Sent: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 18:17:51 +0900 > Subject: Re: Peeve: why "i386"? > > > rsidd> Debian (to take a random example): > > rsidd> http://www.debian.org/ports/ > > rsidd> Intel x86 / IA-32 (``i386'')... > > (other messages deleted) > > > > Please note that "(Put your favorite OS except FreeBSD) calls it > > ia32, so should we" is bad idea, since FreeBSD is FreeBSD :-) And, the > > message you mention is that "i386" is very common name for PCs, they > > cannot simply says it's x86 and/or IA-32. > > > > We're not teacheres of computer architecture; the name should be > > common to us, rather than strict meanings. > > > > -- - > > Makoto `MAR' Matsushita > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"