From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:46:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BE216A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0240D13C4BC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 5347 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 20:46:15 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Nov 2007 20:46:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4738BB3D.5040905@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:44:45 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pollywog References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> <200711121926.29063.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200711121926.29063.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:46:23 -0000 Pollywog wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2007 19:06:28 Chuck Robey wrote: >> I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I visited? >> If so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear of some, I won't >> contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, because it only benefits >> big computer companies, who sell the machines, not the kids. > > It is true that the companies that sell computers and software benefit, but > the same could be said of companies that sell state-approved textbooks to > schools (if you have seen those textbooks you know what I mean), the > companies that sell shoes for sports, etc. There is one large software > company that gives some software to schools and then gets a tax cut even > though it benefits down the line when those kids grow up to buy that > company's software because that is the software they know. Yeah, but in this case, I know more: a lady friend of mine was an editor for a large educational publishing house. Those places (and more specifically the folks that work in them) are rather embarrassed at having to put all that garbage into state textbooks, but the state boards of education require it. They don't want to do it, but they have to, to be able to sell their product. The local state officials are at fault here, not the companies nor those who work for them. I used to listen by the hour to complaints about the stupidity and cupidity of those state officials, from that lady. > I still think it is better for kids to know how to use computers, even if a > few business people also benefit. Hmm. Several of the classes I walked into were disappointing to me, where the kids were made to feel good at being able to play computer games well. If you think that's good for kids, it's your money, I suppose. The teachers were given no training whatever in computers, so they had no ability to do better. I would not contribute to such an item. A program that produces better educational software, that I could see, but not giving computers to schools, that is very counter-productive. Let them eat Doom! I think we should move this to FreeBSD-chat. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"