From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 8 03:09:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAE316A4E0; Sun, 8 May 2005 03:09:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915F243D49; Sun, 8 May 2005 03:09:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j483EQCa018685; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:14:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <427D82C4.4000201@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:08:52 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20050502201921.4F0387306E@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> <20050507192448.GA1401@gothmog.gr> <200505072153.54369.josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es> <20050507201142.GA9298@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: <20050507201142.GA9298@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Darren Reed cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Jose M Rodriguez Subject: Re: IPFILTER Branch [was: Re: [current tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 03:09:26 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-05-07 21:53, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > >>>As far as a branch is concerned, please *NO*! Anyone who wishes to >>>maintain a separate IP Filter spinoff of CURRENT can do it using >>>his own disk space and CVS repository (or Perforce branch, if you >>>prefer). >> >>But I think that this kind of pull-ups really needs of some HEAD-UPs >>and the assistance of people more closer to current, before the >>breakage. > > > That is not strictly necessary, as long as a full "make universe" is run > before any widespread changes that may break one or more arches. > > >>At last, I can't see this kind of matters in NetBSD, where the >>pullups are done by 'NetBSD people'. > > > Darren is one of the "FreeBSD people". > Darren's latest import wasn't ever tested on FreeBSD, nor did he make any attempt to make it compile on FreeBSD before he imported it. He merely dropped it in CVS and walked away. If it wasn't for the teamwork of others, it would still be broken. This is not how we treat CVS, and I don't really give a care what else Darren does in his life. CVS is where work goes that is done and tested, not where undercooked hacks go while waiting for others to clean them up. Scott