From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 14:32:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534CA16A4B3 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0520C43FE1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9BA280991; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 10.202.2.150 ([10.202.2.150] helo=mail.messagingengine.com) by messagingengine.com with SMTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:32:22 -0400 X-Epoch: 1065475942 X-Sasl-enc: GUh1sZoIR035giGNwEZfvw Received: from sparky (dialup-67.74.65.141.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.65.141]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6EC280BD0; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:32:12 -0400 (EDT) To: Timothy Luoma , Ronj_clark@yahoo.com, FreeBSD Questions References: <20031006192407.37042.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:32:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera7.20/Win32 M2 build 3150 Subject: Re: Another question - Boot Menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:32:27 -0000 On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:48:16 -0400, Timothy Luoma wrote: > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:24:07 -0700 (PDT), Ronnie Clark > wrote: > >> How does one edit the menu options when using the >> FreeBSD boot menu to dual boot with Windows? Currently >> mine says: >> F1: ??? >> F2: FreeBSD >> >> I searched the archives, but did not find my answer. > > I believe that is just what it says when it runs into a NTFS partition. > > I'm running http://gag.sourceforge.net/ on my system and found it quite > easy to use and also easy to switch which is the default, etc. Points for searching the archives, but in this case it's an FAQ. :) The bootloader will work even though it just shows question marks. "???" is what it says when it runs into a filesystem that might be NTFS, or it might be OS/2's HPFS filesystem, or even QNX - they all share a filesystem ID number of 7. Other bootloaders such as the NT/XP bootloader, Grub, GAG, etc., are multi-part: one piece lives in the boot sector (which is quite small) and does the booting, and another, larger bit allows you to configure cool stuff like graphics, labels, etc. FreeBSD's bootloader just has the small bit that does the booting. If you want something other than question marks, you can hack the bootloader source (I've never tried and don't know what's involved) or use one of the other available bootloaders, several of which have been mentioned in this thread. The NT/XP loader you already have; GAG is easy and (because it works with RAID) is the one I use ATM; Grub is very configurable and its documentation is useful to learn about bootloaders and the way they work. Jud