From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 26 10:21:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16899 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16891 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA25314; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:03:14 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199611261803.LAA25314@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: A simple way to crash your system. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:03:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, ben@narcissus.ml.org, kjk1@ukc.ac.uk, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <8867.848975625@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 25, 96 06:33:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I use it all the time, but I'm *very* careful not to run more than one > > process on the FS, and I unmount the darn thing as soon as I read/write > > the files to the FS. > > > > It works as long as I treat it like fragile china, and not having it > > would be a real setback for me. > > I understand this, but you also have to realize that many people don't > understand the fragile china approach (and with justification - how > *would* one generally know?) and it's a real setback to have your UFS > filesystems blown away too. :-) > > I'd welcome some compromise solutions, otherwise I think it's simply > too dangerous to advertise, explicitly or implicitly, as a feature. When will devfs be standard? Once devfs is standard, it will be possible to sandbox FS's to prevent collateral damage. The MSDOSFS damage is uniformly collateral damage on a following BSD partition. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.