From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Mar 11 10:45:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nyct.net (bsd4.nyct.net [204.141.86.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2C037BCC8 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:45:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbac@nyct.net) Received: from bsd1.nyct.net (mbac@bsd1.nyct.net [204.141.86.3]) by mail.nyct.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10387; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:45:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mbac@nyct.net) Received: from localhost (mbac@localhost) by bsd1.nyct.net (8.8.8/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15783; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:45:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mbac@nyct.net) X-Authentication-Warning: bsd1.nyct.net: mbac owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:45:32 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Bacarella To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD dead ? In-Reply-To: <89360.952795889@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > One day we will discover that we can't use FreeBSD as freely and / or > > with the same quality. > I wish you doom-sayers would actually come up with some conclusive > rationale for your fears here. Nobody has yet to come up with a > single reason as to how or why all these disaster scenarios would come > to pass and there has been considerable evidence to the contrary > already presented here. > All I see here are a lot of fears and unfounded statements about who > BSDI are or what they're going to be in a year's time. If you think > you know all the answers to those questions, please introduce me to > your fortune teller! Otherwise, I'd say you're doing a lot more harm > than good with this kind of speculation and have to seriously question > your motives at this point. I'm not a doom-sayer, but try to understand this from our point of view. Corporations care only for their interests. Their stockholders will be pissed if they act otherwise. Do you really think there's something wrong with people who are scrutinizing this move? We all love FreeBSD and don't want anything bad to happen to it. Your view of this will obviously be different from ours since you actually discussed this merger with BSDI --- Wait, JUST HOW LONG has this been going on anyway? You've probably been discussing this for at least more than 24 hours. Did it ever cross your mind to ask WE, the faithful FreeBSD users for some input? Were you anticipating this unfound resentment to the merger and felt that a better course of action would be to approve the move, and just let everyone whine after the fact, as opposed to let everyone whine during the fact, and cause more outrage if you went ahead and did it despite protests? Perhaps some people are feeling left out, maybe even betrayed. I would have a hard time believing that you can't understand that, having dealt with the user base for as many years as you have. The fact that nobody (except maybe your trusted circle of supporters) was made aware of this beforehand only adds to our suspicion now, even if your actions were totally innocent. In fact, personally I think you're just stupid, as opposed to malicious. :) You will have to do a lot to convince the naysayers otherwise, though. -MB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message