From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 16 01:06:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A869216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:06:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1624543D1F for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:06:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497E46129; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:06:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59418-08; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:06:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3A96122; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:06:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42129CCB.5030203@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:07:23 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Tinnin References: <42125E71.30804@tbc.net> <200502151655.43509.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200502151655.43509.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Assuming We Want FreeBSD to Grow: Who Is It For? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:06:54 -0000 Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 12:41 pm, Shawn Harrison > wrote: > >>So, we want lots of people to adopt FreeBSD. Who are they? To me? They are users that are: 1. Fed up with the MS upgrades 2. Fed up with paying too much for software (apps and OS) 3. Looking for a viable alternative to the MS empire 4. NOT your average Windows user. The OS, although geared for servers - does well (IMHO and experience) as a desktop PC. As a desktop environment, we would need to ensure that the average Windows user is aware that it's an OS NOT for him/her. Nor should it ever be developed for Joe Windows-User. Windows was created for users that tend not to care if they ever update/protect/etc. the PC they are on. They don't want to know what a console is. The don't care nor understand why Unix is almost always better then Windows. As long as Joe Windows-User can point -n- click, that's about as much work as they want to do. You need to remember why Windows was created. To give the overall population then mindless alternative to using a PC. Thanks to MS, we have a dumbed-down society. Do we really want to develop FreeBSD to be used by these groups of users (No offense intended)? I think not - for when you start to create an OS for the masses, you are doing nothing more then creating a Windows Clone... -- Best regards, Chris In any series of calculations, errors tend to occur at the opposite end to the end at which you begin checking for errors.