From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 22:53:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4BE37B401 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C88243FA3 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6T5rNbr016988 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6T5rNGO016987 for freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:53:23 -0400 From: Ken Smith To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030729055323.GB16116@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20030727192724.GA10869@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <200307272137.h6RLbov2023926@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307272137.h6RLbov2023926@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Mirror Site Requirements - Final Draft? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:53:25 -0000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 11:37:50PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > First, it is a complete mirror, even with some additional > "bonus features" (e.g. daily -stable and -current snapshots). > We're carrying all platforms and all releases, even a few > more (e.g. 3.5.1/i386 which isn't on the master anymore). > Except for one detail: I have opted to omit a few things > from the "branches" directory. In particular, I removed the > extracted ports tree. It is just a waste of space, inodes > and time, in my opinion. We hope to drop branches/ completely. Still working out some details but so far nobody has screamed (loudly anyway). > Second, I am not syncing the whole /pub/FreeBSD from the > master every day. I think that would be a waste, too. > I'm only syncing those parts regularly that change often, > e.g. the distfiles, packages for -stable and -current, and > similar things. I *think* I found a way to describe that which is not too confusing or ambiguous. Let me know... > I think the important thing is _what_ stuff is on a mirror, > not how it got there. And I think that ftp7.de is more up- > to-date than certain mirror sites which strictly comply with > your definition of a primary site. Depending on what stuff is there, whether you are feeding other sites, etc. how long it takes to get there *might* be an important thing. But as you say exactly how it got there is not important. :-) Someone mentioned privately that it would be nice to have a "Mirror Site Wannabe Kit". I'll add that to the list of projects but if someone(s) else want to take a whack at it feel free. Jun posted some cvsup related stuff a little while ago, I'd start off with that and add in rsync and omi suggestions. The article on how to mirror stuff is a good start but could use some more details (that article is where the "Mirror Site Requirements" we've been working on is supposed to go). It has also been pointed out FreeBSD is a real "heavyweight" compared to pretty much everything else. I do carry other things I can compare it to and thoughts have started forming but a lot of factors need to be considered before I start to mention them anywhere. :-/ Targetting the removal of branches/ was brought up by several people before I became active and Jun wanted it to happen too - there were just some small entanglements like Web docs that someone needed to have the time to hunt down and fix. But that was the only truly easy target, the other possible targets involve a lot more factors as far as I can tell. The ports/ in particular. -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel |