From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jun 21 14:56:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07705 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07678 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04239; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:48:54 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980622074850.57163@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:48:50 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: ada@bsd.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 CD-ROM : Package dependencies up the creek ? References: <199806210936.TAA19236@noether.blah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199806210936.TAA19236@noether.blah.org>; from Ada on Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 07:36:10PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 07:36:10PM +1000, Ada wrote: > > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:00:14 +1000 > > From: Sue Blake > > Subject: Re: 2.2.6 CD-ROM : Package dependencies up the creek ? > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 04:20:51AM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > Some packages are useful to have right away. I've done nearly a dozen > > > reinstalls in the past few days. The first time I installed every > > > package which looked remotely interesting, and in hindsight thought > > > that was stupid. However, in a later install I installed *none* of > > > the packages, and immediately regretted that decision too. I wanted > > > to create initial accounts with a bash shell, for instance, but that > > > doesn't work great if you didn't install bash. And the first thing > > > after rebooting I ftp a tar-file of various scripts I'm used to using, > > > but some of them don't work because I don't have perl5 installed yet. > > Create a port, and in it have dependencies to things like bash and perl5 > . then, when you've installed, just do Actually.... I've been doing some work on the idea of a package for newbies who wouldn't have a clue what to pick. Not everyone's cup of tea but better than no idea at all. The package would simply install about 8 other packages, make sure the FAQ, Handbook and man pages are there, plus Annelise's beginners tutorial, the vi tutorial package, a unix tutorial, lynx with a default start page that links to various kinds of documentation and sources of help, some heavily annotated configuration files (e.g. .bash_profile, .bashrc, .lynxrc, etc), and a brief docco saying what was installed what they do and where to read more about them (e.g. 'man vi' but 'info mtools' and just 'unzip'). Since at this stage I'm rather vague about shell scripts let alone packages, and I've seen several others come up with related ideas, this will proceed on the basis of "if nobody else does something similar before I learn how to do it". -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message