From owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Thu Jul 16 20:29:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A179A3023 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E7C19E4 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 908369A3022; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: advocacy@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0549A3020 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55D2419E3 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: by obbgp5 with SMTP id gp5so54198368obb.0 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:29:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=RqbuoplclON09nJu8Rfo/+cYDLK1xJYmkwvhpvtcUZA=; b=gFTeYazjiiFOpGZpAAJm+MsC1+20TW1h+4ihWo/WAECmlqUbEQorio5EaGPOdnr+Dx sx3dlwY+kQIKhLVilDOGHqnFYgW5ZTWjuKBBPIHLWyeO3PA4UkTivXlpXijfqVqEcOc2 qxdBeb+3jG0aYYkanKqNOjr/086PzSxUb3vZXG70A3nQ3lEulP23fkcZCZwCtJlghKKN FYWgGny2Hf/5Fp7tSS+BIKLa6Q7TMAQtAxCD+SDldU+Faffvs4zsEGH0u+s008PzOwzK 8hCJTKlCdXEsPku34QdhdXtDTylsdOIAdsVmUlmz7KAfagSMxDyAPx5EN77L4FU7qdQq +C7Q== X-Received: by 10.202.193.65 with SMTP id r62mr10008140oif.1.1437078562691; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:29:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.80.200 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:29:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <864ml44hki.fsf@nine.des.no> References: <55A647EE.4080504@meixner.dk> <864ml44hki.fsf@nine.des.no> From: Randi Harper Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:29:03 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _3wquZjrtHb__5J4ySCQh5hR5_0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct... To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: Johannes Jost Meixner , advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:29:23 -0000 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrot= e: > Johannes Jost Meixner writes: > > I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated > > against, > > There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of > those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated > against when you are part of a 99% majority? > It's all tacky to have this on the mailing list, and it's all part of his campaign for what he thinks is going to work, because he knows I was asked by core to keep things quiet. He's continuing to target and harass women, however, myself included. This will be my single post on the matter on this mailing list, because this is not the right place to air FreeBSD's dirty laundry, despite him repeatedly trying. A few days ago, a tweet was brought to the attention of my org. It was some MRA/PUA/super racist guy, although I hadn't heard of him before that night. He had posted a picture of a black boy child getting raped along with a snarky statement. We focus more on dev policies and mitigation techniques. This was an extreme case, however. We responded, and this person's account was quickly suspended, as was one of his friends, who commented "boys will be boys". This guy was furious and started directing a stream of vitriol at me from his blog, to which Johannes decided to contribute because he's made it his mission to seek out abusive people and drive them to further harassment. This is who he's siding with. This is what he's contributing. The "male tears" comment wasn't even in relation to Johannes, but instead a reddit thread, which he decided to crop out of the images. In this thread, several people from GamerGate and people outside the project had started posting about SJWs and bigotry before it was eventually moderated by cperciva@. However, he's very determined to find fault in anything I say and find a way to direct it at himself. He's annoying, and he's been threatening me and constantly trying to stir up a mob, with little success. Shockingly, my software works at blocking out the mobs. Weird, huh? Maybe if I could spend less time writing software to mitigate harassment, I could spend time contributing to FreeBSD again. Unfortunately, internet culture is what it is, and it takes time to change, one company or open source project at a time. I wish I could say that I'm shocked that people would object to a Code of Conduct as Johannes did several times - very loudly - but I'm really not. People dislike change, especially cultural change that challenges their social position. It's understandable. However, women make up less than 2% of open source developers. FreeBSD falls below the average. If the project wants to change that, the environment needs to be made more welcoming to women. Right now, it's not, which is made very clear by this mailing list discussion.