From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 15:08:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08433 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08405 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:08:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id PAA23552; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id PAA10887; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:03:50 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id QAA27022; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:03:48 -0700 Message-ID: <36BA2754.C044DBB6@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:03:48 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mike O'Dell" CC: Chris Johnson , Shawn Workman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems References: <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike O'Dell wrote: > > i cannot believe how crass the responses have been > to the simple CDrom question - "it didn't do this before, > nothing explained it would be any different, > so is this a problem or not?" and the responses > have been incredibly rude. > > and yes, one might want to put something in /etc/fstab > so that if it's there, it's mounted, otherwise it > just does nothing. The standard /etc/fstab has the cdrom set to "noauto." If someone is seeing errors from non-existant CDs at startup, they've already hacked the fstab. > you need to learn to be nice to your customers. Main Entry: cus·tom·er Pronunciation: 'k&s-t&-m&r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English custumer, from custume Date: 15th century 1 : one that purchases a commodity or service 2 : an individual usually having some specified distinctive trait Exactly which meaning were you referring to? I didn't see any money exchanging hands here in return for services rendered. You are right, being rude isn't going to help, but I didn't see any rude responses until the original questioner pushed his agenda (this is not what I expected, so it's stupid) as somehow being morally superior to the existing state of affairs. Rudeness begets rudeness. > when you labelled it STABLE you set people's expectations > and how when you fail to meet them you blame the user?? > I thought this wasn't supposed to be Windows. It's not windows, but the STABLE branch label has a well-defined meaning. It may not be the meaning you expect, and that is unfortunate, but it doesn't mean the label is a misnomer, just that you don't understand how the FreeBSD labelling scheme works. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message