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Date:      Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:12:08 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, Bruce Simpson <bms@fastmail.net>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:36:12AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:

> 
> > On Jun 14, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > 
> > I do like how zero percent of the comments are "hey, maybe we need
> > unit tests that run these tools and ensure they output the right
> > stuff." If this were ${WORK} and I were ${BOSS}, I'd have asked the
> > libxo developers to include unit tests before/after for each thing
> > they broke, so we don't have a repeat of this kind of thing. But, this
> > apparently isn't ${WORK} and I definitely don't want to be anyones
> > boss, so..
> 
> gstat still produces the right output. It simply has been broken in that
> you can't just hit 'q' anymore. So while necessary, it wouldn't be
> sufficient.

I am about initial gstat behavior: you can't be do `gstat >
output_log`, wait hour, press ^C and analyse output -- gstat exit
after one ineration. I am talk all utilites have different behavior --
some exits by pressing 'q', some only by ^C (systat), some can be infinitly
output to file|pipe, some -- not. Some have looped mode, some -- not,
some can handle multiple obejcts (gstat, iostat), some -- not (netstat
-nbI).
And more: ix show network statics in netmap mode, igb -- don't show.
No unification. This is more vital, I think.
And no tools for collect correlation data -- for example collect at
same time CPU load by core, i/o load by disk and network load by
inetrface. You may talk about Graphite, but graffit is crap: 
http://grisha.org/blog/2015/05/04/recording-time-series/



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