From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 2 22:33:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB4316A41C for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:33:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: from audi.websitewelcome.com (audi.websitewelcome.com [67.19.210.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB6F43D49 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:33:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: from adsl-065-013-105-239.sip.tys.bellsouth.net ([65.13.105.239]:1928 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by audi.websitewelcome.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DdyFz-0001QL-RP; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:33:43 -0500 Message-ID: <429F8974.2020101@goldsword.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:34:28 -0400 From: "J. T. Farmer" Organization: GoldSword Systems User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuval levy References: <20050602205619.76665.qmail@web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050602205619.76665.qmail@web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - audi.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goldsword.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Stable Users , Dick Davies Subject: Re: filesystems not properly unmounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:33:51 -0000 yuval levy wrote: >--- Dick Davies wrote: > >>* Yuval Levy [0647 15:47]: >> >> >>>Is it possible to fix this issue? from the >>> >>> >>description it seems to me >> >> >>>that the issue got worse since freebsd 5.3 >>> >>> >>(assuming Maxi's root >> >> >>>partition is ufs2). >>> >>> >>If it's a pain to remeber, maybe try sticking >>something in rc.shutdown? >> >> >Thank you for trying to help, but I do not find this >reply helpful. That's a quick and dirty fix, not a >solution. > >How would you feel if your car dealer would tell you >that the car is just fine, you only have to remember, >every time before you start it, to chew a gum and >stick the chewing gum on that little hole from where >some liquid spills before you start it? > >Quick and dirty fixes are ok for the short term, but >this issue has been around for too long. I wish I had >the knowledge to fix it... > > Bad analogy. It's not his responsibility to fix it either temporary or permanent. He's more like a another driver (just like you, driving a similar car/OS) that is passing by. He's suggesting a way for you to function (eg, get home) until a better/permanent fix is found. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 865-691-6498 Knoxville TN Consulting, Design, & Development of Networks & Software