From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jan 7 17:05:49 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA02110 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:05:49 -0800 Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA02104 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:05:45 -0800 Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA05523; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:03:31 -0500 From: Wankle Rotary Engine Message-Id: <199501080103.UAA05523@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Graphical installations and such... To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:03:27 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <29796.789524071@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 7, 95 04:14:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2037 Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk They say this Jordan K. Hubbard person was kidding when he wrote: > > > Well I think this is the wrong thing to do. It sounds almost like people > > want to turn FreeBSD into Windoze. Well forget it: that's a horrible idea. > > FreeBSD (and UNIX in general) is *NOT* Windoze, pure and simple. Don't > > I'm sorry if you got the impression that this was what I had in mind. No no, I never imagined that at all. :) I have only one point that I want to clear up: > > > Look: the X server alone is big. The X libraries are big. Statically > > linked X binaries are very big. Tck/Tk is big. Just how were you planning > > on fitting those big things onto the boot disk, hmmm? Sure, if you mount > > EASY. I only use 2GB disks as my boot disks. Er, no no no. I'm sorry: I should have been clearer. By boot disk, I meant boot _floppy_. In order to provide a complete graphical install, you have to start up X right away, but I can't see how to do that with only a floppy install. I can only see two options: 1) Have a text install that partitions the disk and loads the second stage install, which can include the X server and whatnot, then start the graphical install only after the user boots from the hard disk for the first time. 2) Use the boot floppy to mount the CD-ROM as the rootfs, which will give you as much space as you need. (But no virtual memory.) I thought the idea was to dump the user into a graphical install at step one. I'm just wondering how you plan to do this. -Bill -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -Bill Paul System Manager wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu Center for Telecommunications Research (212) 854-6020 Columbia University, New York City ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Møøse Illuminati: ignore it and be confused, or join it and be confusing! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~