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Date:      Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:43:19 -0400
From:      Chris <kingsqueak@kingsqueak.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Chris <kingsqueak@home.com>, Steve Lewis <nepolon@systray.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Scaling Apache?
Message-ID:  <20000828154319.A5393@daemon.kingsqueak.org>
In-Reply-To: <20000828121932.E1209@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:19:32PM -0700
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On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:19:32PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:03:41PM -0700, Steve Lewis wrote:
> > > keeps request overhead lower (logging and caching tricks) but the
> > > trade-offs in server-side scripting support could kill that.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know of a good FAQ or other resource on load balancing with
> > > apache?
> 
> * Chris <kingsqueak@kingsqueak.org> [000828 12:07] wrote:
> > Look into an Alteon 180e or similar hardware solution...makes this truly
> > simple to do...want another server...sure just add it to the VIP and off
> > it goes.  And because of the VIP they can all have the same
> > hostname...makes server replication even simpler
> 
> Then again one might want to investigate a server solution that
> could cut hardware and space costs by a factor of 2 at least.
> 
> -Alfred

Such as...?

Roxen, very very kewl if you want to use RXML and you have no
application tier to integrate.  Though it is a tremendous pig compared
to Apache <RAM and CPU>.

What else?  Nothing I'd trust with a production tier, nothing
lighter/faster than Apache that is well supported for use with an
application tier in an Enterprise environment.

Also with 1U servers, ~45 of which will fit in a single vertical rack,
fully hardware load balanced... how can you beat that bang/buck/space
even with the cost of a hardware load balancing solution?  

To run the other solutions, Roxen, NES/iPlanet you need the 'bigger
hammer' approach and man E250's are expensive to start stacking up.

Of course using Apache in this method, you will need an application tier
that is capable of clustering and state keeping.


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