From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 07:30:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17C6106566B for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF158FC0A for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o3L7Ui3I065437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o3L7UiBS065436; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA09524; Wed, 21 Apr 10 00:21:07 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:19:59 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk Message-Id: <4bcea71f.2GWYHPZ3ZYYB6t8t%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100420154455.G14495@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4bcd52f8.05g7tnWntHqFWB7u%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BCD5F2B.4050705@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4BCD5F2B.4050705@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:30:46 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > One bounce is bad enough if it goes back to the whole list > -- but that could be excused as a momentary aberration. > Any more than that is grounds for reporting the message to > postmaster@freebsd.org and having the sender blacklisted: > anyone that configures a mail server to send error notifications > to an entire mailing list needs a) to spend some quality time > studying the SMTP RFCs and b) to step away from the keyboard > /now/ as they are clearly not competent to run a mail server > on the Internet. I've seen no indications of the bounces going to the list, only to the sender (i.e. I posted 4 messages to freebsd-questions@ and got back 4 bounces; I didn't get bounces that seemed related to anyone else's posts). However, it does look as if someone needs to teach that mailserver about the Errors-To: header. > Thoroughly recommend using relaydb(1) to teach your mail system > where you've received spam from in the past and make sure it > doesn't happen again ... I let my uucp(!) upstream's Red Condor spam filter deal with that sort of problem :)