From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 21:58:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E018E1065670; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A658FC25; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id KCZ59716; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:47:16 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id KCZ70315; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:47:15 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 7F8C74500E; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:47:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Achim Patzner In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:20:28 +0200." <8C2BF4B9-14CD-40EA-B22E-DBB7060BFE46@bnc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1217454435_64117P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:47:15 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20080730214715.7F8C74500E@ptavv.es.net> Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:58:45 -0000 --==_Exmh_1217454435_64117P Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Id: <86769.1217454367.1@ptavv.es.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: Achim Patzner > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:20:28 +0200 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > = > Am 30.07.2008 um 18:40 schrieb Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav: > > I don't understand what Macs have to do with this - we're talking = > > about > > iX Systems's made-for-BSD laptop. > = > The thread started with someone asking for a mobile computer that > would support FreeBSD sufficiently and nobody came up with something > fitting the bill (and being available somewhere). Considering the > picture you're seeing at any place where more than two hardcore Unix > users assemble you're seeing a majority of Macs. There has to be an > obvious reason for that... I tried to break that habit more than once > but right now the only comfortable way of running FreeBSD on a laptop > is VMware Fusion on a Mac. Reading this entire thread convinced me > even more. I have been running for the last two years in a ThinkPad T43 and it works fine. ATI graphics work well as does everything except the modem. Since I don't have any access to any dialup network service any more, I don't think I care, although I do carry an old PCMCIA modem card, just in case. Suspend also does not work reliably, but I don't normally suspend my system, anyway, so I don't notice that, either. Atheros wireless, Broadcomm Ethernet, graphics, DRI, USB all just work and have worked since V6.1 days. That said, I suspect that my next laptop with be a Mac with either VMware or Parallels, My wife already runs one and it's pretty nice. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1217454435_64117P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFIkOFjkn3rs5h7N1ERAs1VAKC0WfqVOy+cGRPcpIkqLMjz+2nDlACcCIGU CxipZsgpVP7Nb/Rwy05MgC8= =Pzdh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1217454435_64117P--