From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Jul 12 3:28:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9710437B400 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D475343E64 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:28:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:28:06 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 17Sxc1-0003JD-00; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:25:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:25:20 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Wes Peters Cc: Cy Schubert - CITS Open Systems Group , Terry Lambert , arch Subject: Re: Package system wishlist In-Reply-To: <3D2E8CED.9A6B30D3@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Wes Peters wrote: > With some nice, canned configurations that do a good approximation of > working out of the box. Seconded: sample configurations and real, user-modified configurations and I don't want a package upgrade to "accidentally" kill my older config of a dependency that got upgraded in the process, and so on. God, I can't parse that. "Do the right thing with configuration files". Also, avoid the use of pre/post scripts as much as possible: declarative metadata to describe external dependencies that a package has (90% of the time these will probably just be "this group" or "that user") so that I can configure local policy for creating daemon users, getting rid of them when no installed packages still require them, etc. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk Talk is cheap: free, as in beer. As in Real Ale, not that Budweiser rubbish. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message