From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 02:00:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9CF1065674 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacombar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC1D8FC1A for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so3161785wyj.13 for ; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KiAiPvcPmG/ai6LpckFln+VzzYOIUzJz9YcazEX0Jvc=; b=ml+94aUd3VYNPRm0u3wWSpCLl6K1TYqozgB1RkxVEwV58dG5vPl6eA3grCPEae8xDa YrkYdiu/1clfZ/6Aiqw4u8FN5N4lBgD+zjhGc4seCU5jMY93A5aMUcpsbE90d0KDXrOB Qo+ZbkuORsR5y49Ix8TwvhuFHrR1Yj3YSyO5w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.170.204 with SMTP id p54mr381023wel.51.1317866402625; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.103.33 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111006014628.GB19960@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <201109260053.SAA25795@lariat.net> <201109260927.02540.jhb@freebsd.org> <201109262035.OAA17199@lariat.net> <20111006014628.GB19960@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 22:00:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Lacombe To: obrien@freebsd.org, Benjamin Kaduk , Arnaud Lacombe , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Experiences with FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 02:00:18 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:46 PM, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 07:48:23PM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >> My recollection is that this is because kensmith forgot to take >> 'makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g' out of GENERIC when branching stable/8, and no = one >> noticed until a couple of releases in, at which point it seemed consiste= nt >> with POLA to just keep it there. =A0Unfortunately I am not having much l= uck >> digging through mail archives trying to confirm that. >> I don't remember whether the plan was to turn it off on stable/9 or not. > > When I split out the symbols from the kernel, the intention was to always > build with -g so users would have the symbols to help debug reported > problems. > > If one was running a stock release kernel, they are not needed as we know > where to find them -- the intention was to have a kernel-symbols tarball > that was an option install. > > I pretty strongly feel that -g should not be removed from stable/9's > kernel configs. =A0Otherwise we're more in the dark when folks report > problems from tracking -STABLE. > I agree on everything. I already sent the patch to install .symbols files in a separate directory. I'm waiting for its inclusion before looking at the logic to create separate package. - Arnaud