Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:56:01 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.org>, stable@FreeBSD.org, seb@bluetail.com, ruslan@shevchenko.kiev.ua, olgeni@uli.it Subject: Re: erlang port -- a poster child (Re: I'll be rolling a 4.1.1 rele ase on September 25th) Message-ID: <200009182056.QAA36579@misha.privatelabs.com> In-Reply-To: <20000918150610.C44991@FreeBSD.org>
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On 18 Sep, Ade Lovett wrote: = On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 03:50:41PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: = > As a rule, I CC port maintainers (and the last committer chaning the = > port's Makefile) when I submit a PR regarding a port. = = Then SAY SO. In the PR. And if you get no response within a = <time-period>, followup on the PR, saying you got no response. Ok, this is something new... = Committers are not mind-readers. If you don't give us all the = information, then something is going to go wrong. It seems, that in this case, Ruslan (who last committed the change to the port) is not even an e-mail-reader. The port maintainer does not appear on the list of committers. My previous grievances went to -ports at least twice too. I thought, that's were the committers interested in ports hang out. = > In this case, I not only did that, but also keep bothering this fine = > people, without any response, regretfully. My last such bothering = > took place less then a week ago, when I wrote to the Eddie mailing = > list: = = Ahh. The Eddie mailing list. That well known repository of useful = information for -ports PRs. If you read my message carefully, you'll see that I'm claiming that I cc-ed my mailing to both the committer and to the maintainer. Moreover, as the http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/search.cgi?words=erlang+eddie&max=50&sort=score&source=freebsd-ports confirms, this also went to freebsd-ports. = Is it really that hard to understand that if it's not in the PR, it = doesn't exist? Yes it is. Up until now, it was said, one has to talk committers. I believe by contacting Ruslan and -ports I was doing just that. Having to list all (some) of my steps in the PR is a new requirement -- I thought, the PR should only have the technical information. Should this entire conversation be documented there as well? = Tell us the steps you've taken to try and contact maintainers. They = can always be overridden, but you *have* to (try to) speak to them = first. I think, I'm telling just that. "The steps" are listed in this thread. = > Perhaps we (Jimmy Olgeni and yours truly) should merge our patches = > and resubmit, but it would be nice to see a confirmation, that it = > will be looked at before we spend any more effort... = = Contact the maintainer again. Ok, I did with my previous e-mail and am doing so again with this one (see CC-header). = Of course, if you want to pay me, say, US$100 for each PR, then we = have a contract, and you'll get all the appropriate benefits. Let's not get into bean-counting. I think I contributed enough of my own work and time for this not to come up. This would be a giant can of worms and ethics of even mentioning money here can be discussed to no end. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message
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