From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 17 20:33:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C2DC852B6 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 20:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x234.google.com (mail-ua0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A98F9845 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 20:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x234.google.com with SMTP id b35so41568910uaa.0 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 12:33:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=wHY3iU0ES5sZXBFXEpeggZH+KDSm4luRpl3+dDmAFMk=; b=sAq9lisibWhOouMs8mnhYzLMVp2GxkyImFVWKCkppOvDg0Ba1y1qUNMAamWpVzrBnJ CDDwzfqif8Ur//2NCqJBU0zv8I1EAO52/MsVy3vOqeZJmzN3jCLDYTlPsNR8BTtmxryk PHV7W++5AkeH0qzHuGfvsHcjIf+dsGr5L7vUjVQUEGOJ0AtYPnWccDIwiInwT2HIys5F OjQSWs2GbtQeER5iaoFtWdNVbTigO2rVY0XtXjD41vtp0n8OChELk+JCEuxRiRzo5VMW GOBIhzMvDZ5RS8EBY24ICHs9QmsxHBptV0M+chw+QREVrA+zOqCAN9CyVHn86ZpjljdG jjyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wHY3iU0ES5sZXBFXEpeggZH+KDSm4luRpl3+dDmAFMk=; b=twZr4TF7J8b80HGxTFI5gBxFl3yz0nx6NY0A3T2dRyPDZHPBBqSqFz64Vrh0/kjo+e AvFDJDnAzmAoFITncs9XEDfK0tsmcTIIVHZ7utITFwLqOjvFqP+4lK1DUeFVQgQRQcQF f7n8qteZ5ow975at15YYW9yttcxlTwA8jVJIE5mFuw8aF0/LNgMssI90kA+/UMEWnb97 CxgCk1JPZSuym7++xl2OseMsqA6QqqpK2yIY5L5KPsW7IFetNjEMvtNQRIFqg8NEj9O+ +byMiOb/18nvwUx7A/sDr462V4TqhrMZkYQMzRRwYVXu5YVawHrA5Uns8KI8nIdfGVN8 DowQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01H9/GACO5DfNEbo5jFQWiPzvqzl+W48QmBcXK7V4gpVLKXFM86iRw3xCwA8bh3jKtJxzjh7Aek6xkuNQ== X-Received: by 10.176.0.169 with SMTP id 38mr8017824uaj.34.1482006781687; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 12:33:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.66 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 12:33:00 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> <20161203175403.d51cba9f.freebsd@edvax.de> From: David I Noel Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:33:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Replies to spam To: Polytropon Cc: Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 20:33:03 -0000 On 12/15/16, David I Noel wrote: > Sounds like status-quo it is then. > > In the interest of continuing fruitless conversations on this mailing > list, I move to create the position of "Common Sense Things Around > Here" and nominate either one of you two seemingly reasonable people > to the position. > > I'm currently in the process of creating a few hundred new email > addresses from which I will +1 this reply. > > David > > On 12/3/16, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:14:51 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: >>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, David I Noel wrote: >>> >>> >> Forums do so as well, we are usually just not used to terminal >>> >> browsers. >>> > >>> > A forum <=> list interface could solve that problem, no? >>> >>> I want to apologize, as mentioning the forums was not meant to be a >>> suggestion to switch to them, but to point out that current computer >>> users mostly use the web rather than mailing lists. A web interface to >>> the mailing lists would be fine, provided it is usable. >> >> Wouldn't a web mailer be a possible solution here? It enables >> the user to "stay on the web" / to "e-mail in Firefox" and >> still benefit from the features unique to mailing lists? ;-) >> >>> The volume of posts to -questions from new users has not been very high >>> for years. To me, that does not seem like a compelling reason to keep >>> the list open to posting without subscription. >> >> That is a quite valid point of view. New users might be fully >> comfortable with registering for a subscription-only mailing >> list as they already are used to register for "everything" >> they use... >> >> -- >> Polytropon Well, I received an email shortly after sending this from someone who asked not to be named who informed me that I was on the right track, but that the only real way for that to work would be for those 100 email addresses to start contributing to base, be voted in as project members, and then +1 the previously mentioned email. So much for any immediate solution.