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Date:      Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:34:47 -0500
From:      "Dean E. Weimer" <dweimer@dweimer.net>
To:        FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Cc:        owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: File Name Too Long?
Message-ID:  <c522f5de02a7e101be4c7e1b1ed85b70@dweimer.net>
In-Reply-To: <974bc572bedda786fdc18a41085952c1@dweimer.net>
References:  <974bc572bedda786fdc18a41085952c1@dweimer.net>

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On 2016-09-29 9:32 am, Dean E. Weimer wrote:
> I discovered, unfortunately by deleting a jail by accident, that my
> backup process isn't working. At least it was only the operating
> system part of the jail, I still have all the data so I just need to
> reinstall the operating system. While the ports are in the process of
> building I started to investigate the cause, because the backup logs
> report everything was fine.
> 
> I have a custom pre-backup script I wrote that takes snapshots of my
> ZFS datasets, and then mounts those under /mnt/backup with nullfs
> mount points to the .zfs/snapshot/.. directories then I back them up
> rather than the live file system, allowing me to stop some services
> that don't restore from a running state correctly and then restart
> after the snapshot so downtime is only a couple of minutes instead of
> full length of backups.
> 
> It appeared to be running perfectly, without errors, but apparently
> the script isn't reporting some nullfs mount failures, so why are the
> failing, turns out it thinks the file name is too long? but looking at
> the mount(2) man page it states this:
> 
> [ENAMETOOLONG]     A component of a pathname exceeded 255 characters, 
> or
>                         the entire length of a path name exceeded 1023
>                         characters.
> 
> I can see that at some point under this, I may reach that 1023 limit,
> but what of the total 71 characters in this path has a problem?
> 
> /jails/unifi/ROOT/.zfs/snapshot/11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28--bsnap
> 
> root@freebsd:/jails/unifi/ROOT/.zfs/snapshot # ls
> ls: 11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28--bsnap: File name too long
> 
> I thought, maybe its a ZFS specific error, and ran across this:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2010-March/007964.html
> 
> [..snip..]
> From looking at the code, I think you hitting this limit:
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * Be ultra-paranoid about making sure the type and fspath
> 	 * variables will fit in our mp buffers, including the
> 	 * terminating NUL.
> 	 */
> 	if (strlen(fstype) >= MFSNAMELEN || strlen(fspath) >= MNAMELEN)
> 		return (ENAMETOOLONG);
> 
> in vfs_domount() or vfs_donmount().
> 
> This is FreeBSD limit caused by statfs structure:
> 
> /*
>  * filesystem statistics
>  */
> [...]
> #define MNAMELEN        88              /* size of on/from name bufs */
> [...]
> struct statfs {
> [...]
> 	char	f_mntfromname[MNAMELEN];/* mounted filesystem */
> 	char	f_mntonname[MNAMELEN];	/* directory on which mounted */
> };
> 
> When you list .zfs/snapshot/ directory (especially with -l option) ZFS
> mounts snapshots on lookup and this is this mount that fails.
> [..snip..]
> 
> I can seemingly due anything else with the snapshot, clone, send,
> receive its just that I am unable to access the files on it through
> .zfs/snapshot/..
> 
> I am trying to find what the limit is here from this, because this one
> here works.
> 
> /jails/webmail/usr-local-subversion/.zfs/snapshot/usr-local-subversion--bsnap
> 
> its longer in total length than most of the ones that are failing.
> 
> /jails/unifi/ROOT/.zfs/snapshot/11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28--bsnap
> 
> So it appears that its in the name, and not the mount point.
> 
> this one works as well, which is my ZFS boot environment on the main 
> system
> zraid/ROOT/11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28
> snapshot is /.zfs/snapshot/11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28--bsnap
> 
> So its not just the last component of the zfs dataset name, which is
> in this case the same.
> 
> I am trying to wrap my head around this and find where the limit is so
> I can adjust my naming conventions used and actually get backups of
> all of my data. Turns out all of my jail operating system paths aren't
> being backed up, fortunately at least all of the data file systems for
> the jails are.

I found a solution, I was naming the snapshots with the dataset name, 
which I think was causing the issue.

The following didn't seem to long to be an issue
/jails/unifi/ROOT/.zfs/snapshot/11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28--bsnap

But apparently the snapshot name was
zraid/jails/unifi/11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28@11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28--bsnap

Still not sure how it adds up to too long, both full paths together 
aren't over 255, at 160, but apparently something else is added in 
there. I was able to easily modify my backup script to not include the 
last part of the dataset in the snapshot name and simply use -bsnap-, as 
the name. it appears to avoid all the issues, and my backups from last 
night include all the files.

/jails/unifi/ROOT/.zfs/snapshot/-bsnap-
zraid/jails/unifi/11.0-RELEASE-r306379-2016.09.28@-bsnap-

The total path now only adds up to 98, I haven't done any testing yet to 
find out where the limit is hit, The longest combination of these I had 
last night would have added up to 135, and that worked

-- 
Thanks,
    Dean E. Weimer
    http://www.dweimer.net/



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