From owner-freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 16 10:30:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951EC134 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x22f.google.com (mail-qe0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B84FC7B for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 1so262944qec.34 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:30:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=99pd19zvzLEVA+bsWWFQuYbN6Z5d7Rcavw0KxBA1h8I=; b=zwOQ30Dp1+WPgUTjjzDmcHx4I643o48V5ueZgvgPbTFwGSxYY02LyfWNpj5obMMagQ wjkrnhvM8a0dm9lvovY3SQbsdCU5mw5Cv52P56w/Sc5ANquzyEtXYVRN3cGAfhyOD/cf 6qUG3QDf7prCu//A0ZB7dgcouwZmidwEUJVTSN2fjenIvrdRCdN5wzp6D/7MeTVxrfFy E3DnDEWSKqxLMvW1mpfMrDhWQKGs/jxzg9ifuBmaVKLuZZQ8UUQPCbW9HHsVbWztqF4R hX2IMhGOxpzRFPWyiThY0pVQj4a4foAiAw5vTIKA1W1y4Y65mSR7i4dLrU98IUK1dIJt 45hQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.183.142 with SMTP id cg14mr2136880qab.27.1373970644568; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.49.35.84 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:30:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201304211610.r3LGA21Y061796@freefall.freebsd.org> <1373965992.34006.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:30:44 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8dD9yjAovB-ksh6sDZlPOYTrY_A Message-ID: Subject: Re: usb/177895: similar 1TB Western Digital "My Passports" - some load, some don't From: CeDeROM To: Hans Petter Selasky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD support for USB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:30:46 -0000 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > I`ve been thinking that perhaps I should start selling certified USB hardware that doesn`t have all of these caveats you guys report all the time :-) Would you buy stuff if I opened up an USB shop? +1 :-) Good idea to introduce "FreeBSD Certified" or "Daemon Powers" or similar kind of certificate to know if this hardware works with FreeBSD or not, not only in USB area :-) This could be managed by FreeBSD Foundation like a hardware-compatibility with great granularity. Test could be performed by vendors, core team, or independent researchers, then clients would simply know what to buy and what to avoid (i.e. avoid Intel WiFi cards, problems with WDC drives, etc). Vendors would be interested in increased sale of their products and so FreeBSD would have better drivers when vendors take care of their proper implementation and funding :-) +1 For selling stuff that works out of the box on FreeBSD, that would also create financial support for your great work Hans so you can concentrate on things that are really important! :-) Best regards! :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info