From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 02:50:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC8A106566B; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EA08FC08; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so17988313fxm.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:50:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YT7XggNIfcxNg23goluOU7B7Cprs8qWVJTCeoUCVytE=; b=ZeusRbdak2kH10sqs6GQsj0ziHHZG5eZnE+zphQxd/5FsRXbueJJIllzmGbssGuBzF UlOCz/BZQQFLl5s878YTJoOooKhQ3rUJr767uRU4E9jcxktY6dLyH+R6DFTW5S9rBf30 AbHo3U6FuUaXmRG5dlvnIWE3HY+vgLSZ8BgOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YRIeT7PYgUUWjwLOeXI5+zPb1eDk9rUoVvy9M1WsfGddl3Pjpg2ScRMnn7W1uHSIo2 5N7aROElVu0Vk9lh0X/TfrADod8H5UEJvx6wJTRLTXXApW1gTOwZ4wLcae489BqkaIi/ 4w23e80Qe/7K5fnAgtcftnvNKUyiHwNSheeW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr5447493faq.51.1294541442009; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 18:50:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110109024419.GA25374@icarus.home.lan> References: <20110109024419.GA25374@icarus.home.lan> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:50:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jeremy Chadwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Another Phoronix article X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:50:43 -0000 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 08:22:04PM -0600, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, Ivan Voras wrote: > > > > >Phoronix is not exactly the epitome of correct benchmarking but it > > >appears that they've at least recently found out about the > > >existence of error bars. > > > > Yes, but you go read the site anyway. > > Which in turn makes me wonder why no one from the FreeBSD community > (developer, contributor, or user) is offering to help the Phoronix folks > "become more familiar" with FreeBSD and/or help track down or explain > whatever "issues" they encounter, rather than just constantly ragging > on them. > They have, me and others(at least one with @freebsd address). Phoronix testers don't respond, sometimes trying to incorporate suggestions except they are still quite sloppily done. Phoronix has enough man power and skills to provide more reasonable and fairly structured tests and choose not too, so that is why they get ragged on. -- Adam Vande More