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Date:      Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:42:45 -0500
From:      Andrew Hesford <ajh3@usrlib.org>
To:        Gordon Tetlow <gordont@bluemtn.net>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>, Doug Barton <DougB@DougBarton.net>, Cyrille Lefevre <clefevre@redirect.to>, Jon Parise <jon@csh.rit.edu>, Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>, Mark Santcroos <marks@ripe.net>, bsddiy@163.net, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, eivind@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: import NetBSD rc system
Message-ID:  <20010614144245.A7853@core.usrlib.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0106141146040.94127-100000@sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com>; from gordont@bluemtn.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:57:18AM -0700
References:  <200106141814.f5EIEOV15979@harmony.village.org> <Pine.BSF.4.33.0106141146040.94127-100000@sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com>

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On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:57:18AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> > With all due respect to Eivind, he's reinventing the wheel.  I'd like
> > to see NetBSD's brought in with an absolute minimum of change.
> 
> Along those lines, I'm typing on my laptop that is using the scripts that
> I have ported over... I've only gotten it up to network initialization.
> 
> >From diving through it all, there will be a fair amount of departure from
> the NetBSD stuff at least up through network init. This is just due to the
> inherent differences in the OSs. Where there was departure, I took the
> current FreeBSD boot scripts and turned them into modules so as to make it
> very similar to the current system.
> 
> I've also made some (slight) changes to the boot order. Mostly just
> formalizing the lock step nature of things. I did make one change that I
> think will be helpful, I moved pccard initialization to before the
> mounting of /usr (but after mounting /var). This way people can use pccard
> for mounting filesystems from /etc/fstab which I don't think you can do
> now. Anyone have any objections to this move? it would require moving
> pccardd and pccardc to /sbin, but that should be it. Other than that, I
> made the (rash) assumption that /var is local storage, which simplifies
> things greatly. That makes it diskless un-friendly, but we've always been
> unfriendly to diskless anyway....
> 
> I'll see about porting the rest of the scripts to get it as close to a
> fully working system as possible, I think it should go rather quickly. I
> hope to have patches up tomorrow for people to play with.
> 
> -gordon

Wow, this is the thread that won't die.

I take objection to the moving of pccard before mounting /usr. It works
just fine for those who place /var on the same partition as /, but for
guys like me, it means you are mounting /var at a different time than
other filesystems. I think that, for cohesiveness and sanity, all
filesystems should be mounted at the same time, with the mount script
simply calling `mount -a`. Otherwise, we have to wory about mount-var.sh
and mount-rest.sh.

If we want to mount pccard stuff from fstab, we should do something like
the smbfs script does. Then we can have a mount-local.sh and
mount-pccard.sh script, which is a bit more sane.

-- 
Andrew Hesford
ajh3@usrlib.org

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