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Date:      Thu, 19 Dec 2013 15:59:15 +0100
From:      Rodrigo Osorio <rodrigo@bebik.net>
To:        Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>
Cc:        David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>, "ports@FreeBSD.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, marino@freebsd.org, freebsd.contact@marino.st
Subject:   Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing
Message-ID:  <20131219145915.GB5264@oldfaithful.bebik.local>
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On 19/12/13 22:09 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:46:41 +0100
> Rodrigo Osorio <rodrigo@bebik.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 19/12/13 21:41 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:04:10 +0100
> > > John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > > you got the point. We have to assume that a port which is not
> > > > > marked broken has to work. 
> > > > 
> > > > I build the entire port tree several times a month.  I can tell
> > > > you from experience that this assumption is not valid.
> > > 
> > > so, you want to say, that all the little problems which are solved
> > > mainly by people who are not the maintainer should become PRs?
> > 
> > IMHO, it's the only way to reach quality in the port tree with a very
> > accurate traceability.
> 
> you want to say i.e. all the e-mails regarding the switch to KMS
> supported X should be PRs just because the writer did not read UPDATING
> and the other sources? I think that this can easily handled here
> without any PR.
> 
> Erich

I don't think ocular problems are in my skills....but...

why not, specially if they think there is a real problem with a port.

I'm not saying PR is the only, mandatory, way to solve problems. You 
can talk about a problem in forums,ml, wathever, but if a fix is required
it's better to report it as a PR. 

PR are bette in many ways, with a PR, a problem is - most of the time - assigned to someone
so you can complain if nothing is done, in a ML, if nobody cares, there is no problem.

obviously, sumarize a problem takes or found a solution takes more time than shoot 
a "this port doesn't work" email. 
 
 - rodrigo




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