From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 17 16:50:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6031587D for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 16:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFAEFD62 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 16:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t0HGo0Rw055431; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 03:50:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 03:50:00 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: Upgrading a FreeBSD 7.1 server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20150118032109.T82172@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20150117010617.J82172@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Robert Fitzpatrick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 16:50:06 -0000 On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 16:27:41 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 16 January 2015 at 16:31, Ian Smith wrote: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 554, Issue 5, Message: 17 > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 20:46:11 +0100 Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > > Regarding your question about pkg, you'll need to run pkg2ng to convert > > > your current ports database to the new pkg tools, after your upgrade to > > > the 8.x branch. > > > > > > I seem to recall having problems with a few ports that wouldn't go along > > > quietly, but all in all you should be a-OK. > > > > That could turn into a _lot_ of work. Personally for 8.4 I'd just save > > a list of ports from pkg_info, install the OS, install pkg(7) on it, > > update pkg(8), install portmaster and follow the Handbook to install all > > your ports/packages and keep them updated (as desired). > > > > But then, I'd sooner recommend going to 9.3-RELEASE instead. Support > > for 8.4 expires in June this year and I've heard no mention of an 8.5 > > > > 9.3 is an extended release, supported until the end of 2016. I've found > > the whole 9.x series to be very solid indeed (albeit mostly on laptops). > > > > Again just personally, I'm happy leaving 10.1 a while longer to settle, > > but I'm a conservative updater too .. > Ah, your mileage may vary, however I for one am *very wary of 9.x* > > I'm afraid I've seen waaaaaay too many bug reports and regressions about > 9.0 and 9.1-RELEASE. > > So far, we've steered way clear of this branch at work. Fair enough. Without specifics, I can't imagine what sort of issues you're referring to; different users have such very different usages. > Hell I'd sooner push 10-STABLE than 9-STABLE in prod. Ok :) There are still some regressions there for some scenarios also, but generally people seem happy enough, reading freebsd-stable anyway. > Of course, I'm aware that was some time ago and patches have likely been > published since, but you know how it goes. > Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... nope :p Ok :) I (and other Lenovo users) had one nagging ACPI / USB port issue that was only resolved before 9.3-R, and there's a regression from 8.x in ACPI code that affects only HP laptops (and a MacBook Pro) about to be resolved - but these are edge cases, you'll always get some. I had more bother with stable/8 with a suspend/resume issue, also since fixed, all of which are things uninteresting to people running servers at work! Apart from that, I was basically supporting your points .. cheers, Ian