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Date:      Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:35:57 +0000 (GMT)
From:      "Open Systems Inc." <opsys@open-systems.net>
To:        Dan Dockery <danarchy@endeneu.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Is there a reseller program?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.990204082425.7801C-100000@freebsd.omaha.com>
In-Reply-To: <36b9a41536bb2299@mail0.mailsender.net> (added by mail0.mailsender.net)

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Dan Dockery wrote:

> Another thing that would probably help raise awareness of FreeBSD would
> be a certification program of some sort.  Consulting companies tend to be
> big on being able to say "This guy has an MCSE and a CNE and a CCIE, etc.
> etc."  You could call it a FBSDE or something similar.  There are a few
> companies who are coming out with Linux certification programs (Redhat
> and Digital Metrics come to mind), but the problem with that is the
> certifications will (most likely) be distribution-specific.  FBSD has the
> advantage that there is only one distribution.

	I would agree a FreeBSD certified course or test would be cool.
But the fact is FreeBSD is not large enough for that to mean anything.
It might to some big shops that rely on FreeBSD. But 99.99% of all clients
will wonder what that is. I think the best effort we can make is to get a
boxed FreeBSD distribution out into stores, and write another book.
The man pages have to go from greg's book IMO. No one bought the ORA
4.4BSD books because they we're just reprinted man pages.

	I would suggest to greg that the man pages from his book be
removed. That greatly decreases the size of the book though.
Another thing that was mentioned is the lack of GUI tools for managing a
FBSD box. Someone at berkeley is writing a set of GUI tools based on Qt.
It looks promising. I recently joined an all NT shop *UGH*, and have been
trying like mad to get FreeBSD boxes to replace the NT ones. The biggest
beef here, aside from them being totally clueless and saying FreeBSD
cannot outperform NT, is that things are just to hard to manage.
For instance DNS. If they have around 100 different domains, there are no
easy GUI tools that for example allow you to make a change on one domain
and clone it to the rest. Like chaning the primary and secondary name
servers. You have no tool you can just click "Make change for all
domains?" etc..

	I don't think we are lacking in power, performance, or networking.
What we lack is the complete idiot tools to use them. I used to think that
it was not that hard for the average person to run a FreeBSD network
because once you configure things they run forever. But since starting
work here, people HAVE to be spoonfed with the easiest GUI tools.
If we had those I believe we would be right up there with MS.
Build it and they will come, or so they say. At least thats my recent
revelation on why people are choosing NT over unix. It is soooo easy,
simple, and it has 1000's of features on every tool and app.

Thats my .02 anyway

Chris

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