From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 21 7: 9: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A7037B71A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:09:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.159]) by femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010321150559.TUOI22629.femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:05:59 -0800 Message-ID: <3AB8C387.2265B68@home.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:06:47 -0500 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19pre17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-STABLE@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() went backwards References: <20010320231919.A23244@laptop.os2warp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott Lambert wrote: > > I have just encounterred the microuptime() went backwards issue on my > dual PPro 200 box. I have not changed the operating system at all. > > What I have done is change the video card (an ATI Expert 98, PCI), and > compiled XFree86-4.0.3 from ports. I had not used X on this box before. > I then installed X, ran xf86cfg, and exitted xf86cfg. At this point > I had 5 microuptime errors all during the same second. I then tried > to run X but it did not work. I had one microuptime error. I ran > xf86cfg again and created 6 more microuptime errors. Again all > errors happened in the same second. > > I am rebuilding this history from the log files. I did not pay a lot > of attention to the error messages at the time because I knew I had > seen the errors mentioned on the mailling lists and assumed I could > fix it later. > > Two minutes later I have another 5 messages in one second. I think I > editted the XF86Config file by hand in those two minutes then popped > back into xf86cfg to check some things. After that it gets fuzzy. > > It seems that they only happenned while playing with xf86cfg or xvidtune. > Most of the errors in my log showed up during the time that I think I > was playing with xvidtune. During those times there were many more > than 5 microuptime errors per second. Or maybe it just happens while > actively doing something in X. I have spent the rest of the day > building GNOME from ports. It was still building when I left work. > I did use X after the errors end but I was simply runinig top in an > xterm or installing xscreensaver in an xterm. (xscreensaver didn't > want to work, I'm waiting for GNOME to use the GUI config rather than > read the manual tonight. It was time for dinner anyway.) > > Now, I've searched the mailing lists and found two recommendations that > don't seem to apply to me, and thoughts that microuptime errors may > be related to certain Abit mobo's or even AMD processors. I'm posting > this for data that it is not necessarily limited to the newer AMD > related hardware and that APM may not be directly related. > > APM has never been compiled into the kernel on this machine. The > sysctl variable is set to what was reccomended: > > $ sysctl kern.timecounter.method > kern.timecounter.method: 0 > > Could the video card be busmastering too long and not allowing the > kernel to get timer readings on time? ie. a bus contention issue? > I just started getting them on an older AMD K6-II powered server. Strange that they just appereared now. I haven't done a buildworld on it in a while.. maybe 2 months or so but I did do a cvsup/kernelbuild a few weeks ago. I rebooted and so far nothing yet...28 hours. I did a recent HD upgrade but that was at least 2 months ago.I would think the problem wouuld have surfaced sooner. My settings are the same for APM. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group http://powerusersbbs.com Linux the choice of a GNU generation............ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message