From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 27 01:39:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA10308 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10273; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA12438 (5.67a/IDA-1.5); Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:37:21 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0uZCZZ-00020FC; Thu, 27 Jun 96 10:37 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA158394572; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:36:12 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199606270836.AA158394572@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: I need help on this one - please help me track this guy down! To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:36:11 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: vince@mercury.gaianet.net, ejs@bfd.com, mark@grumble.grondar.za, hackers@FreeBSD.org, security@FreeBSD.org, chad@mercury.gaianet.net, jbhunt@mercury.gaianet.net In-Reply-To: <199606270321.UAA01884@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at Jun 26, 96 08:21:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > > > >> > It was a remote login so he had to transfer it over somehow... > > >> Well, *if* that's true, it still wouldn't be setuid root just from the > >> transfer. He'd *still* have to get root some other way to make this > >> binary setuid root. > >> But if he's going to do that, why bother copying a binary over the > >> network -- it would just be easier to just snag a copy of your own > >> /bin/sh and mark it setuid root. > > > Hmmm, what happens if he tars it first and then sends it over? > > Try it. :-) That's the only way to figure all this stuff out... > > Seriously, you must be root to create a setuid root file. It doesn't > matter *how* you try to create it. A five dollar question Vince: does root have .rhosts in his home directory? What is to be found there? If he does, throw it away; it's enormously insecure. Similar with /etc/host.equiv et cetera. /Marino