From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 26 17:08:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2D31065672 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from passiveprofits@yahoo.com) Received: from web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4BCB8FC29 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from passiveprofits@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25675 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2008 17:08:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=La/pqie7O2F1/xV1C9mVBKsKeUGedVfXtlEfYTWscM/bkhibkYJSmyPDiZOqyXWRtsr+EHOUCmqydyNcLb1dEUq+XvzR5b1QGzbEyjFRvAT1FX9z/78qRKsEpbXF35Udx4ovtqUj7sA0v0cwq13CVxTymr+vBmg+mfLqHf7bleM=; X-YMail-OSG: p9kEtrYVM1lNHuPXvRRifd80Ko1c2hMXxzSMLhuc Received: from [80.46.113.101] by web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:08:43 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Passive PROFITS To: Marian Hettwer In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <952143.25012.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question - about newbie user support X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:08:45 -0000 Hi there Marian! First off, I must point out that it's incredibly nice to have met my first female (I assume correctly!?) on a computer related list. Long rumoured about ... Finally! Unlike the Yeti: actually spotted! LMAO More below! :) --- Marian Hettwer wrote: > Hi there, > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:19:55 -0700 (PDT), Passive > PROFITS > wrote: > > > > FWIW, I am only experienced with putting together > > firewalls in Ubuntu using a GUI (Firestarter). I > do > > not seem to have come across problems using that > combo > > (IPtables? + Firestarter GUI). > > > I'm actually not aware wether there is a gui to plug > together a firewall > ruleset based on pf(4). > That said, I suggest to use pf as the packet filter > of choice. It's a great > one. > Get a first impression about pf(4) by reading the > handbook > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-pf.html) > or by reading man pfctl. > As a newbie, you should start with the handbook :) OK, OK - I'm not averse to a handbook or two ;) And I am not trying to short-circuit that route. I am on handbook overload though, what with trying to get my head around Linux, and now FreeBSD, too! I need to slow down a little. I've wanted a Linux install for like years, before Ubuntu came along, and now I've got all those years lost, to catch up on ... Not all tonight, I realise! ;) > Obviously you should have an idea what a packet > filter (buzzword is > firewall) does. A good understanding on how tcp and > networking works is > preferred for a good configuration. I've got some very basic understanding (no technical understanding) of your basic POST & GET, from doing a very little webmastering some years ago. I also 'get' the idea that different protocols have different default ports through which they usually operate. Past that though, I'm basically in need of going right to the start, and not skipping anything!! I'm in this long-term though, so won't be complaining. > Another way of just having a FreeBSD + pf based > firewall would be using > pfsense (http://www.pfsense.org/) which is in my > understanding a FreeBSD > live CD with a nice webfrontend to configure your > router/firewall. Thanks for that, and the other recommendation from another. I may find that I get one of these firewalls 'out of the box' working, then install a 'proper' install on another machine to play with/learn on, etc. At the moment, I've only just burned the disks, and found that there is indeedy (sic) a huge and detailed manual that should help me get up to speed with just about everything, judging by how comprehensive it seems! > It really depends on what you want to do... wanna > learn how to setup a > packet filter in a unix environment? Go with > FreeBSD. Wanna have a nearly > out of the box firewall, go with pfsense. > > I'd prefer the FreeBSD way, because it's always good > to understand what the > heck is going on under the hood :) I agree, though as stated, I'm like on 'new info overload, like, every day!'. I can take in a lot, quickly, but I must admit even I choked a little when I decided to try get some understanding of FreeBSD at the same time as Linux Ubuntu ... I'm sort of hoping that learning one will speed the learning of the other, not confuse me too much! That's the hope, anyway! > Anyway, welcome on board and happy experimenting. And let me say a big thanks for the warm welcome. I must admit I wasn't too sure if I was only going to elicit a few flames from my original post. Happy, like, now I am. Realising there is some support, even if only moral (though it seems far from that!! ;)). Best, PP > regards, > Marian > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs