From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Nov 18 16:54:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6D9110726A for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "puchar.net", Issuer "puchar.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EED2850A2; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wAIGrvpm024621 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Nov 2018 17:53:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (puchar-wojtek@localhost) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id wAIGrq6J024614; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 17:53:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 17:53:52 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Stefan Blachmann cc: Cy Schubert , Ian Lepore , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-hackers Hackers , Rebecca Cran , Mark Johnston Subject: Re: 13-CURRENT: several GB swap being used despite plenty of free RAM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201811180154.wAI1smhg049214@slippy.cwsent.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0EED2850A2 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.38)[0.381,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[puchar.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: puchar.net]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.144.1.194.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: PL(0.02)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:43476, ipnet:194.1.144.0/24, country:PL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:54:10 -0000 why someone changes WELL WORKING swapping algorithm? On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, Stefan Blachmann wrote: > So I guess the unwillingness of the developer team to add an option > like "NoPreemptiveSwapping", which disables swapping out as long as > there is free physical memory available, is of psychological nature. in FReeBSD 12 there is vm.swap_idle_threshold2: 10 vm.swap_idle_threshold1: 2 vm.swap_idle_enabled: 0 which works as expected and can be turned on or off as required. what's wrong with it