From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 29 14:58:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6A46B0; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7224F2DBD; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [38.105.238.108]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F736B9B3; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:58:19 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC? Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:54:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p28; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201308291054.02641.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Kimmo Paasiala , Adrian Chadd , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , Warner Losh , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:58:20 -0000 On Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:56:53 am Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hm! Are they dynamically loaded if you insert the cards? > > (Ie, has devd been taught about them as appropriate?) These are drivers for the bridges, not for cards you plug into the bridges. If you autoloaded them at all you would load them during boot when you saw an appropriate PCI device. Currently we don't autoload any PCI drivers, so I don't think that should be a blocker for taking these out of GENERIC. Warner is probably the best person to ask. -- John Baldwin