From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 11:44:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEB0106566B for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9728FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so2059827vws.13 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 04:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.73.103 with SMTP id k7mr4773787vdv.210.1308656659479; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 04:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bt2sm2087655vdc.12.2011.06.21.04.44.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 04:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Qz6f86v70z2CG44 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:44:16 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110621074416.58869e66@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201106202352.24196.rsimmons0@gmail.com> References: <201106202352.24196.rsimmons0@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: freebsd list admins? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:44:22 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:52:23 -0400 Robert Simmons articulated: > Who is the admin for freebsd-quesitons and freebsd-security? There > seems to be a few email addresses that are subscribed to these lists > that keep spamming it periodically, or in the case of > freebsd-security actually don't exist and have a broken mailserver > that sends a reponse back to the list. The addresses don't seem to > be changing, so would it not be easy for an admin to remove those > addresses from the list? > > I've tried sending emails to postmaster@freebsd.org about it, but I > get no response, so I figure I'm barking up the wrong tree there. You have voiced a concern that has been voiced here several times in the past. Unfortunately, this is an "open" list; ie, anyone subscribed or not can post. This leads to the inevitable problems that plague this forum. I have tried contacting the "postmaster" in the past also. Personally, I think it would be easier to contact Jimmy Hoffa(1). Occasionally you will see some reference to "moderators", but then again, I have never witnessed any actual intervention on their part. Of course, I have also seen references to Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny although I have never personally witnessed either of them. Now, if this forum were conducted under the same restraints that the Postfix forums(2) adhere to, the quality of advice given and basic overall quality of this forum would increase immeasurably. It is my personal view that FreeBSD-Questions should be consolidated into the chat forum. Chat forums are rarely moderated and tend to be open to the general public. The "Questions" forum has deteriorated to the level of SlashDot which has deteriorated to the level of a cesspool. At least SlashDot openly admits that they allow (encourage) "Anonymous Coward" to post. (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hoffa (2) http://www.postfix.org/lists.html -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html