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Date:      Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:13:26 -0553.75
From:      "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Removing documentation
Message-ID:  <56BD84CC.3040105@hiwaay.net>
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On 02/11/16 14:15, Royce Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, John Marino <freebsdml@marino.st> wrote:
>> On 2/11/2016 8:25 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
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>>> On 07.02.2016 17:28, John Marino wrote:
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>>>> ports-mgmt/synth.  I would love to hear what signficant thing
>>>> portmaster can do that Synth can't.  (honestly)
>>>   Be installed FROM PORTS without all this build-one-more-gcc stuff.
>>> Ada? For *port*management* tool? Are you joking?
>> Let me guess.  You've spent actually 0.0 nanoseconds preparing on the
>> subject before providing this enlightened take for the list.
>
> Having read the entire thread, separate from the relative merits of
> Synth, the core of Lev's incredulity isn't that off the mark.
>
> On the face of it, Synth requiring ncurses seems reasonable ... but
> its Ada dependency is a bit of a mild POLA violation.
>
> Don't get me wrong -- I actually think Ada is pretty cool, and Lev
> could have been nicer about it ;), but he's essentially right.
>
> People's instincts are that software management is core functionality,
> and should have few unusual dependencies.
>
> My earlier side-thread point stands.  FreeBSD software management is
> fragmented.  Until that is resolved, a lot of time and effort will be
> wasted treating the symptoms.
>
> Royce


Preach it *LOUD*, brother :-) !!!! (fragmented package management)


For my $$$$, that is about *all* RH & Debian have going for them, but 
yum/RPM et al cover up a multitude of other sins ....


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	William A. Mahaffey III

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