From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 12 07:08:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A379AA5785 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E5A61858 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-244-25.knology.net [216.186.244.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u1C77uUq009660 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:07:57 -0600 Subject: Re: Removing documentation References: <56B754A8.3030605@marino.st> <56BCE01D.4010701@FreeBSD.org> <56BCE218.40403@marino.st> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56BD84CC.3040105@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:13:26 -0553.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:08:05 -0000 On 02/11/16 14:15, Royce Williams wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, John Marino wrote: >> On 2/11/2016 8:25 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA512 >>> >>> On 07.02.2016 17:28, John Marino wrote: >>> >>>> ports-mgmt/synth. I would love to hear what signficant thing >>>> portmaster can do that Synth can't. (honestly) >>> Be installed FROM PORTS without all this build-one-more-gcc stuff. >>> Ada? For *port*management* tool? Are you joking? >> Let me guess. You've spent actually 0.0 nanoseconds preparing on the >> subject before providing this enlightened take for the list. > > Having read the entire thread, separate from the relative merits of > Synth, the core of Lev's incredulity isn't that off the mark. > > On the face of it, Synth requiring ncurses seems reasonable ... but > its Ada dependency is a bit of a mild POLA violation. > > Don't get me wrong -- I actually think Ada is pretty cool, and Lev > could have been nicer about it ;), but he's essentially right. > > People's instincts are that software management is core functionality, > and should have few unusual dependencies. > > My earlier side-thread point stands. FreeBSD software management is > fragmented. Until that is resolved, a lot of time and effort will be > wasted treating the symptoms. > > Royce Preach it *LOUD*, brother :-) !!!! (fragmented package management) For my $$$$, that is about *all* RH & Debian have going for them, but yum/RPM et al cover up a multitude of other sins .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.