From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 24 14:11:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29806 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (daemon@smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29680; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26778; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:10:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd026713; Wed Jun 24 14:10:31 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15856; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:10:27 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806242110.OAA15856@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: PCVT's death To: hm@kts.org Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:10:27 +0000 (GMT) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Hellmuth Michaelis" at Jun 24, 98 06:08:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have you ever heard of c-o-o-p-e-r-a-t-i-o-n ? Thats a behaviour which is > fundamentally different to dictate. I disagree. Nonlinear Dynamics, Mathematical Biology, and Social Science Joshua M. Epstein Sante Fe Studies in the Sciences of Complexity Addison-Wesley Publishing Company, Inc. ISBN: 0-201-41988-2 Specifically, chapter 3: Imperfect Collective Security and Arms Race Dynamics: Why a Little Cooperation Can Make a Big Difference. In the discussions: (1) High Connectivity With Low Strength vs. (2) Low Connectivity With Higher (But Still Very Low) Strength vs. (3) GLOBOCOP Even in the face of the existance of a core team ("GLOBOCOP"), it is possible to achieve a high degree of net good, even if the GLOBOCOP actors fail to back down from their initial defense level as a result of a percieved external threat ("we fear change"). Even though the ideal in this case is (1), and less so, (2), instead of the (3) FreeBSD implements (as the relaxation to the base defense level takes longer through non-participation, there is a tendency for the actors to fragment into smaller defensive groups, cv. the *BSD splits and non-mergers), it's still possible to achieve a large amount of net good simply by radical inaction. "Never substitute activity for action" -- Seneca, Letters From a Stoic, 4 AD - 65 AD My advice: 1) Leave PCVT alone until absolutely necessary 2) Confer on the absoluteness of teh necessity before acting 3) Act on consensus, if possible, on reason, if not. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message