From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Mar 20 13:56:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10407 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.konnections.com (mail.konnections.com [192.41.71.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10402; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle (root@ip207.konnections.com [192.41.71.207]) by mail.konnections.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA00120; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:55:35 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3333026C.4D412594@konnections.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:50:22 -0700 From: mike allison Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Chat@FreeBSD.org CC: FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: Free Systems Journal] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk mike allison wrote: > > Jordon: > > This is very interesting. We've been working on this project for a > couple of weeks now and it was at the behest of Greg Lehey whom I've > recruited, to write to FreeBSD and let everyone know. A couple of > things I didn't put out, which I should have, is that I want to be able > to allow for readers to make reasonable copies and that we will place > back issues on the net (like you in multi formats, pdf, ps, etc). I > have no objections to writers doing FreeBSD and FreeBSD related stories > to publishing them in your newletter, and vice versa. I'd also be > willing to list a link to you newsletter and support it in any way > feasible. > > I would certainly hope that we can all complement each other rather than > compete and that readers will want to get as much "news" as possible. > It's hard to say that a free newsletter threatens our market, but I see > a very real concern regarding article availability. > > Rather than deplete that pool however, I want to offer it greater > exposure. Again, although we may pay, the amount isn't going to be a > GREAT attraction (although somehting is better than nothing in that > regard). > > Really, though, our desire is not to compete, but to expand. I think, > in the long run, readers will have Free access to our magazine, they may > need to pay for timely access, but ultimate access through the net, > should be free as well. How free, price-wise, depends on our ability to > find other funding through advertising, or ?. > > Please respond with you comments and thank you for your letter > > Thanks, > > -Mike > > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > Hey All: > > > > > > Burning Eagle Book Company would like to announce our forthcoming > > > publication: > > > > > > "The Free Systems Journal" > > > > This sounds like a great offering, though I do feel compelled to note > > that before people jump on board too quickly with this, the FreeBSD > > Project, in cooperation with Walnut Creek CDROM, is also just now > > launching "The FreeBSD Newsletter" and will be sending it out free of > > charge to all interested FreeBSD customers (2.2's recently introduced > > registration form has a subscription option for it). > > > > I mention this now because I am, in fact, currently seeking articles > > for the first issue, something I was going to announce tomorrow but > > your announcement sort of galvanized me into action a bit sooner. :) > > > > My worry is that two startup publications devoted to this segment of > > free software market will quickly deplete the available articles, > > already in rather short supply, and I wonder how we might work this > > out. It's also going to be possible for me to collect name & address > > info directly from the installed base, as well as give away free > > advertising space to FreeBSD related vendors, so it strikes me as a > > definite possibility that one publication could sort of hamper the > > growth of the other from a surplus of advantage if we don't work out > > some more cooperative arrangement. > > > > I'd welcome suggestions as to how we might handle this. > > > > It's also the objective of the FreeBSD Newsletter to be available in a > > wide variety of media, including postscript paper copies, ascii (for > > email) and HTML for the WWW site(s). Back issues will also be kept on > > www.freebsd.org and distributed with future CDROM distributions. > > > > Given that this will probably be nothing like the slick, glossy, > > full-color periodicals you get from folks like the Linux Journal (and > > possibly this Free Software Journal), I having had something more like > > USENIX's ";login" newsletter in mind, perhaps there is ample room in > > the market for both publications if we play this reasonably > > cooperatively. If nothing else, the Free Software Journal will be > > paying its contributors and may therefore attract a different caliber > > of writer. :) > > > > Comments? > > > > Jordan