From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Oct 9 16:04:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1414E3484B for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07311609 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BC29DE3484A; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E2BE34849 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound1b.ore.mailhop.org (outbound1b.ore.mailhop.org [54.200.247.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90C2B1602 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-User: 9801a7ad-ad0b-11e7-a938-4f970e858fdb X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 73.78.92.27 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [73.78.92.27]) by outbound1.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 9801a7ad-ad0b-11e7-a938-4f970e858fdb; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v99G4jrE001492; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 10:04:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1507565085.77958.3.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: deorbiting /usr/lib/libstand.a, moving to sysboot From: Ian Lepore To: Dimitry Andric , Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:04:45 -0600 In-Reply-To: <23C4A573-05A7-4D76-9179-19169ECAB570@FreeBSD.org> References: <23C4A573-05A7-4D76-9179-19169ECAB570@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:04:59 -0000 On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 17:57 +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 9 Oct 2017, at 07:45, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to deorbit /usr/lib/stand.a and /usr/include/stand.h. These are > > really parts of the boot loader with an unstable API and shouldn't be > > installed into the system. It's really a private library to the boot loader. > Though I completely agree with this, I am still interested in the > historical reasons for separating out this library for general userland > consumption.  Were there any other parts of world that happened to use > libstand? > > -Dimitry > There are out-of-tree users of libstand.  Perhaps not many, but a couple times after doing something to libstand I've received emails from people that thanked me for the enhancement and mentioned some non- loader(8) use of the lib in passing.  (Unfortunately, I can't find any of those mails now, they were from 2-3 years ago.) -- Ian