From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 09:00:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3588316A4D0 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.4.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4B043D1F for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:00:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de by mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.26 (built Mar 31 2004)) id <0HZC00201DTOX5@mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> (original mail from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:59:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [129.70.78.49] ([129.70.78.49]) by mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.26 (built Mar 31 2004)) with ESMTPPS id <0HZC00HKJEBD3Z@mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:59:48 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:08:03 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein In-reply-to: <40CE5B1F.3060709@yahoo.com> To: Lloyd Hayes Message-id: <40CEBC73.6080605@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040527) References: <40CE5B1F.3060709@yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing problems. No Desktop. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:00:44 -0000 Lloyd Hayes wrote: > I installed FreeBSD on an older Gateway laptop. 128 MB/ 233 MHz/ 800x600 > screen/ 6 GB Hard driver with 4 GB on the hard drive set aside for > FreeBSD. Windows 98 SE is installed in the other 2 GB. FreeBSD appears > to be installed correctly, but I cannot get the KDE desktop to come up. > In fact, all I can get is the command line. I can pull up the > installation files. But that is pretty much it. I am very familiar with > DOS commands, but UNIX commands appears to be nothing like them, and I > don't know any UNIX commands. It seems that I can not pull up even the > directory. The commands are very similar at the command line, but you invoke a directory listing with 'ls' instead of 'dir'. Copy and move just lost their vocals ('cp', 'mv'). > I have managed to get my mail saying that I have incomplete > modifications from trying to change things. I get to a point where I > can't even figure our how to close the program, so I hit the power power > which closes things down. > But this is frustrating, and makes a good case for why people are > staying with Windows. In going from the old C-64/C-128 to Apple, to IBM, > to a CP/M operating system, the system commands reminded very much the > same. Even in going from the old GEOS (On both the C-64/C-128 or the PC) > to them MAC, to Windows, things stayed very close to the same between > them. Here everything is completely different. It's like going from > English to being told to fill out a form in Chinese without ever having > seen or heard the language. Your situation is more like being stuck in MSDOS 6.0 before starting Windows 3.1(1). You have to start up the X-Windows system. 'XFree86 -configure' generates you a template config for your system. After you have moved your config to /etc/X11 you should be able to fire up kde by entering 'kdm'. If all is successful you can enter the command in /etc/ttys for automatic startup. There is a template line for xdm. > I've installed the FreeBSD software 4 times coming to the same end. How > do I get from this Chinese line item stuff to an environment that I can > deal with? KDE seems to be installed, but is not coming up by default, > nor by any other way or reason. > > I've tried several things, but I tried something to manually bring up > KDE the other day by switching to it's directory. Whatever I was doing > was something out of the FreeBSD Handbook. I was logged in as 'root'. I > got errors saying that I did not have permission. This puzzled me. I > didn't think this was supposed to happen while logged in as "root". It is possible to restrict even root for security reasons. > I have version 5.2.1 which I had downloaded a couple of weeks ago. Hendrik