From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 28 13:40:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA15730 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15721 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA09018; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:32:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602282132.OAA09018@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Quake's out, where's that Linux ELF emulation? To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty Jr.) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:32:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, jehamby@lightside.com, root@dihelix.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199602282018.MAA01222@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty Jr." at Feb 28, 96 12:18:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Okay, I understand your position is just that when the linux crowd has > pestered vendors for support they usually have gotten what they > want. From my own personal experience and lets set aside ID because > we all know we are not going to get anywhere with them, every time > I talk to a vendor about FreeBSD I sort of have to explain it in > terms of Linux. Well have you heard of Linux , we are just like > that public domain. Vendor says "Oh, I see I understand. Well we have > received many requests for Linux however just one right now for > FreeBSD if there further requests to port our to FreeBSD we may > consider doing a port" The situation is not aided by the fact that the BSD camp emulates the Linux ABI sufficiently well that companies are of the opinion that they can save themselves a porting effort. The problem with ABI's is that they are short term gain, but long term loss. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.