From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 14:47:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0375B1065678 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8534F8FC0A for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 14:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so470748eek.13 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:47:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=/AbQvAVDipevDHA01xLlzr8nYZCVwyiuzZyjdK1M6iA=; b=TK2m4hlzDzCwD7xFeFzJaQN5DpAnpO+8Qewtk+OCAv+7o1Sd2dmMAx45TsaIHwAxKu /T65umZsBrRCYqovgRChPyTytO6LWkW12R0QB7O6PfY4Jluf+2GJPu7ZfGVFyRi7HnZp MGRpR1rvmsDfzdy9ZObHzhaL1Xb5e2dWqBMCgOFXqLE/jGBYNxGTD1NIcnxbNePMtcVz uolm+i7ngaP1xBb7Z+C6RWZRtI6FpJQ+2GjJv84+wubqfVheZoPks4J55h4bkZRdT5mj vtYi6i0dsp9uELQP1TmwHhJym/l2WygIYzgdYOeTRzumDnpiFoKBY9wCqCu16Gx2SSBT 696A== Received: by 10.14.186.14 with SMTP id v14mr2019547eem.49.1338475634399; Thu, 31 May 2012 07:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s47sm11314804eef.4.2012.05.31.07.47.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 31 May 2012 07:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC7846F.7040307@my.gd> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:47:11 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Strohl References: <4FC779C0.7020801@ohlste.in> <4FC77EAD.1090900@my.gd> <4FC78087.2000004@ateamsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <4FC78087.2000004@ateamsystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkEFNZR1xYDzOvR/Jk4Y7t7fIEqXPpu5A+j8NHUzyBSMsXW3KyWo3hDGsHwz4Bdq0aWRw3Y Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:47:16 -0000 On 5/31/12 4:30 PM, Adam Strohl wrote: > On 5/31/2012 21:22, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> On 5/31/12 4:01 PM, Jim Ohlstein wrote: >>> To add others, in no particular order: >>> >>> Ease of upgrade. While some have noted that binary upgrades are easier >>> on Debian, it's far and away superior, IMMHO, to have a locally compiled >>> system. Many Linux distros have no upgrade path short of a wipe and >>> re-install. >>> >> Far superior, check, FAR MORE TIME CONSUMING, check as well ! > > This brings up another point: Repair is always possible with FreeBSD. > > You can back out all packages or types of packages easily (and > re-compile or reinstall them if needed). You can recompile/reinstall > the OS if needed (somewhere else too and copy it over). Or just copy > pieces from a live cd or restore tarball. And it's pretty > straightforward to do even for a non-admin person. > > You can even restore over a live running system with tar, which I do > occasionally when cloning machines or restoring them with dump/restore. > Very slick. Regarding recovering from blunders, and dump/restore for restoration or even cloning purposes, I also use them and I can advocate the efficiency and usefulness. Regarding packages, I've never really explored it, would you detail a bit ?