From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 23:26:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB22916A435 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565A743D1F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1821649wra for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:26:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q+OV7xKu1MlsgnB+Vxin/k2CzGAxkrSPhR4RjTkxzIlQHuWmfQpcePOqKCBCNe5mtiB+XYv0SLP0gMKMi4PV1Igdzj4OLARs0UjDbkqQIxxIj1Xje156KrK5dH+awrFyvAlWIXcFUADHtfCqEfK0VS+HtWlZX13+ORGnG5FFi3A= Received: by 10.54.118.7 with SMTP id q7mr3124456wrc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.2 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:26:51 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton To: Christopher Black In-Reply-To: <1118683745.898.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050607123103.49021.qmail@web52306.mail.yahoo.com> <1118683745.898.5.camel@localhost> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Celeron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nikolas Britton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:26:52 -0000 On 6/13/05, Christopher Black wrote: [snipped] >=20 > On the contrary, lead has great worth if, for example, you need > radiation shielding. =20 Isn't it ironic how lead can hurt and help you, I'm referring to lead poiso= ning. > A point of note is that the third party shells > packaged with Linux (such as bash or zsh) are the same third party tools > packaged with FreeBSD. =20 bash and zsh are not include in the base install. They are in the ports system, mainly because they are 3rd party shells. > I would be inclined to say FreeBSD actually uses > a higher percentage of third party configuration tools than RedHat or > SuSE, who tend to write their own in order to be more user friendly. > Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't know of many instances where FreeBSD > provides custom (graphical) configuration utilities. FreeBSD doesn't do GUI config. FreeBSD is primarily a cross platform server OS, not a desktop. Implementing a cross platform GUI install thingy is more trouble then it is worth because most servers don't even have a monitor. Try getting that GUI to work over a serial port. sysinstall is the only (that I know of) config program that FreeBSD is released with so I don't know what other config programs you are referring to. Are you thinking about X config?, X + gnome, etc. are not part of FreeBSD. Ports or Packages =3D 3rd party and not part of FreeBSD, if it's not on the mini install disc then it isn't part of FreeBSD.