From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 5 8:53: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE1737B423 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4886D43E3B for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 5349 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2002 16:53:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Nov 2002 16:53:06 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA5Gr1n5048919; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:53:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20021105091514.L69586-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 11:53:02 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Fred Clift Subject: RE: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0 (fwd) Cc: "alpha@freebsd.org" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-Nov-2002 Fred Clift wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> On 05-Nov-2002 Thyer, Matthew wrote: >> > I'd hope we can split the Alpha boot floppies even further to get around these kind of >> > problems. >> > >> > What is required at minimum is the following: >> >> This is what we do already. Even i386 now uses 3 floppies to install. The problem is >> that a really, really stripped down 5.0 kernel still doesn't fit onto kern.flp with the >> loader. > > Being new to the alpha architecture, my biggest problem with all this is > that I dont know enough to even have vague ideas of _why_ the i386 bare > kernel is so much smaller than the alpha bare kernel. > > Can anyone explain this? I'm really just curious :). For one thing, 64-bit binaries are larger than 32-bit binaries. Another difference on 5.0 is that Alpha supports SMP out of the box where as i386 requires a custom kernel for SMP support. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message