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Date:      Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:19:22 -0700
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Firm Timeline for MIPS removal from FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <3d389f86-34aa-bf64-2ba1-563f73c6ca5e@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <B6F954C7-43DD-4119-9DBE-3272AF69E8CF@freebsd.org>
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On 10/27/21 10:49 PM, Philip Paeps wrote:
> On 2021-10-28 11:08:47 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote:
>> Please find enclosed my proposed firm timeline for the removal of mips
>> from
>> FreeBSD, as previously discussed. There was no opposition to the plan
>> when
>> I posted before. The major
>> users of FreeBSD/mips in the past have mostly moved on and they
>> indicated
>> no objections
>> to the plan. And Adrian has committed his first arm port as well...
>>
>> So, I propose the following rather quick timeline:
>>
>> November 1: disconnect from tinderbox / universe. Add notices to
>> appropriate manuals and MFC them.
>> November 5: Post a review for its removal
>> November 15: commit the removal, assuming the review goes well.
>>
>> Comments?
> 
> Do you have a suggestion for when we can remove the mips packages from
> the pkg mirrors?  Since you mention MFCing this change, I assume we
> should stop building and distributing packages for 12 and 13 too.  How
> long should we keep the last package set around for (if at all?)
> 
> I ask because I'd rather use the disk space on the mirrors for more
> better supported architectures.  While the footprint of mips packages is
> trivial in comparison to most others, it's not zero.  And syncing them
> across the mirrors takes time too.

Note that Warner is only proposing to MFC the deprecation notices, not
the removal.

That said, I think if you are trying to prioritize which package sets to
carry on mirrors you should use any data you have (stats on how often
packages for different arches are fetched, etc.) to inform your priorities
there.  To be clear though, MIPS is going to stay in 12.x and 13.x, it is
only being removed in 14+.

-- 
John Baldwin



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