From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 26 18:37:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EECEEE for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x231.google.com (mail-ea0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFB85FE for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f177.google.com with SMTP id q14so695968eaj.22 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:37:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=TQZm7VF4+ut7q/MDXaHwp3zMANMajthC6CDXHe1iJc4=; b=gKiXv+dIET8IUgQyj6kgQFE1SaBlv7eQbV/qSYcSN9yjGL/Qz6OkdE543CwHx9TPSj JhwQNRsxwwLqMydqQxA8b0rZbTYVcstSlvvgHWP5fZJyCf1XFqSVZZqcqBmrv7hEdZo2 vzom0PfJ8QsW/elx21lUnYHK8ZVdA+DJr6KaxW+1ltIld2w1cptfGVU/k4Gc++9BRqra 0yjE8gw6nuZie927pA9FFmf8iFXUHOzxzyq0kjCXPgiUBaYkxC0/EwWwuc9X/KYT8WSZ X9f5YYkkx5LkR6odPZrbzskYCT0pJ32wYx+sPM63aQVwck/vQQHjgSlZfUsPndJvzcVB mWYQ== X-Received: by 10.14.182.72 with SMTP id n48mr21223741eem.3.1364323066888; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ithaqua.etoilebsd.net (ithaqua.etoilebsd.net. [37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 44sm26643111eek.5.2013.03.26.11.37.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:37:43 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: Ports should provide knobs disabling unwanted network services Message-ID: <20130326183743.GF64932@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <1364123355503-5798581.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XStn23h1fwudRqtG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Beeblebrox X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:37:48 -0000 --XStn23h1fwudRqtG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 07:15:24PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Beeblebrox wrote: >=20 > > Many ports, (specially the KDE-related ones) provide no option to disab= le > > network-related options. Usually these are things like samba-client, > > Avahi-mDNS* (with variants), and the like. Gnome usually provides a cho= ice > > to disable gnome-vfs. > > > > I really don't understand why such ports enable those services by defau= lt, > me too. I don't think KDE is for anything serious but still it should jus= t=20 > be disabled by default and enabled at user choice. >=20 > No special knobs for disabling should exist, but for enabling. It is not because a program is linked against a library that it uses it for real. I don't know much kde, but I'm pretty sure I have a checkbox somewhere saying "activate mdns" or "deactivate mdns" you can have it installed on yo= ur system but not actually starting it. I general I do think ports/packages should offer as default what may fits t= he general needs easily. in this case if you are free to use/not use it via a checkbox, then the default right now is sane because another user with diff= erent needs will just have to click to activate it without having to build his own packages. regards, Bapt --XStn23h1fwudRqtG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlFR6vcACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EzovwCdGrZKUBEPkyQZYtxuMBrXl9PY fA0AnAiMXlDSaLsA5MmfSRNFylKsI/t8 =bnTN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XStn23h1fwudRqtG--