From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 3 01:22:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B8845F6; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 01:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x22a.google.com (mail-pb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C87C19A9; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 01:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id jt11so6505137pbb.1 for ; Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:22:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JeWLj1wWx/rIWm8R5ugVLqg0v6a6L9f3i7DmRI83vmQ=; b=ElgshM+XLHClNgY2aWPAzpdEc1e88eAo83BdDWOZJUzB2GzSKZ1wDEy2GHCzclgZ/5 49eEEpZD5TJU70/BA09cjhO5EA/MQsmJ8P7/qCUXYGZWGYdnkMHfzO2b4Zdzj1ks7SYS pyL5sDmcBBD6c+JQlDEQMV5F0oyY6QESdW5G9QYU35LkDAujpku70K/CQEVV8xGzIl90 iTSoo7Z9MsEALkX7rlxlmAEOXrL9LWMQtDavdBaPbv0DaT6KChe1vn1lhiC9Z8PMGkVN Do5LXlAnzQNYfMfydmRm2KQBvzLmZMa0zsbX/y8bW3AOb+5TMQNQy8C5DNdWHL14PaKq 71+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.202.8 with SMTP id ke8mr34569071pbc.86.1391390569639; Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.235.68 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:22:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:22:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: snd_hda autodetection From: "Brian M. Waters" To: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 01:22:50 -0000 Cross-post from freebsd-hardware@: I have been messing around trying to get the snd_hda driver to work 100% on my ThinkPad. There are a lot of HDA chips out there, and it turns out laptop manufacturers are real "cowboy" about wiring them up - pins x, y, z on one machine may not have the same function as pins x, y, z on another machine. To make matters worse, these quirks are never documented. However, Linux (and Windows) "just work" on these platforms - while FreeBSD (at least on my X230) requires manually experimenting with the snd_hda driver's configuration via device.hints. I am not sure exactly how Linux/Windows handle this - perhaps they do some kind of probing, or perhaps they ship with a long list of known quirks. My question is: is there some technical reason this has not been implemented in FreeBSD, or is it simply something waiting to be implemented? Is there any way I can help out? BW