From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 25 20:13:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D570106566B for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF0C8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A8928422; Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:56:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ip-86-49-61-235.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A66828423; Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:56:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E7F8761.1060205@quip.cz> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:56:17 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rees References: <4E7F260E.8020908@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "deeptech71@gmail.com" , Fbsd8 , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 beta2 & the new bsdinstaller X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:13:27 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > On 25 September 2011 14:01, Fbsd8 wrote: >> deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Fbsd8 wrote: [...] >>>> the reboot starts. Don't let the reboot occur until the memstick is >>>> removed. >>> >>> Do NOT alter! More often than not, >>> (1) you keep floppies, optical discs, and memory sticks in your >>> computer without intending to boot from them, and >>> (2) you'll want to use your BIOS's boot-once functionality (press a >>> specific keyboard button to bring up the media choser menu for that >>> boot; otherwise boot from the hard drives) whenever you do want to >>> boot from floppies, optical discs, or memory sticks. >>> >>> >>> >> You have missed the subject completely of what #6 is addressing. This has >> nothing to do with telling the pc hardware which media to boot from at power >> up time like you suggest in your post. >> >> This has to do with the logic of the new bsdinstall process and the >> differences between bsdinstall and sysinstall in the way the install media >> is removed from the pc before it reboots as part of the normal install >> process. >> >> > > Surely a reminder rather than an obstinate refusal to continue is appropriate? > > Example: > > Please remove your install media so that it is not loaded on reboot, > and press any key to continue.... I agree with your suggestion. Reminder is helpful for beginners. But I really hate systems / applications forcing me to do something not necessary. Things like this are operators decision. System should provide choices. There are real situations, where install media cannot be removed (install via remote KVM with real local USB stick) and there is no need to not allow user to reboot from the installer. Miroslav Lachman