From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 7 5:30:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCAF37B403 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 05:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.1.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8866CBA56; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:30:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001801c0ef4d$b0106a80$0101a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "William Wong" , "Brian Behlendorf" , "Gordon Tetlow" Cc: References: <002201c0ef16$ff0042a0$0300a8c0@anime.ca> Subject: Re: IPFilter licence update Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:30:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Assuming this is so -- what about the kernel based code? Granted, you can just not specify the config option, but it is still built as a module, and shouldn't be if it is not BSD licenesed IMHO. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Wong" To: "Brian Behlendorf" ; "Gordon Tetlow" Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" ; Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: Re: IPFilter licence update > Not sure if this was mentioned on this thread, but it looks like a commit > was made recently which moved ipfilter into contrib. > > - Will > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Behlendorf" > To: "Gordon Tetlow" > Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" ; > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:21 AM > Subject: Re: IPFilter licence update > > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > > I removed Darren from the CC list as I don't think he really needs to be > > > in on this discussion.... > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > > > > > While meaning no disrespect to Darren with this followup. What good > does a > > > > signed memorandum with FreeBSD do if I decide at some point (which I > won't) > > > > to take the FreeBSD source and branch it into my own variant? This is > how > > > > the various BSDs came about in the first place. It does seem rather > > > > restrictive of a license for the FreeBSD core system. Why can't this > be > > > > released under the BSD license? > > > > > > > > > It's not released under a BSD license because he doesn't want to. His > > > perogative. We have some much more restrictive licenses (ie GPL) in the > > > base OS and no one complains about them. > > > > > > > Wait, I'm confused. I thought the resolution was that the ipfilter code > > that was a part of FreeBSD was under the standard BSD license like > > everything else under /usr/src (aside from /usr/src/gnu), and that > > Darren's no-redistribution-of-modifications clause applied to > > non-"release" versions of the software, i.e. beta releases, etc, the > > implication being that once released, it'd be put under a BSD license and > > then integrated into FreeBSD. Is that not the case? > > > > If not, that's pretty bad - it means that you can't really say anymore > > that 'FreeBSD is under the BSD license, aside from some GNU bits', you > > have to say 'FreeBSD is under a multitude of licenses, some of them not > > open source, please examine all source code files for potential licenses > > before redistributing'. That would suck. > > > > Frankly, Darren's "no modified versions may be redistributed" > > "clarification" is much worse than even the GPL. But I'll avoid > > recrossing well-covered ground. > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message